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		<title>By: denise</title>
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		<dc:creator>denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree w/Ogre. From a Christian stand point I view homosexuality to be a sin. I am called to love the sinner and hate the sin.  For any Christian who reads this post I am most specifically speaking to you.  We love the sinner by praying and helping break the chains of bondage to that sin. A married man has an addiction to pornography we don&#039;t say &quot;I love you and here are the latest Vivid videos&quot;.  Loving the sinner is not embracing and making exception to the sin.  As for my opinion about the Supreme Court this country is &quot;For the people by the people&quot; - THE PEOPLE SPOKE!!! We are speaking louder this time I encourage everyone to vote YES ON PROP8 - DON&#039;T ALLOW YOUR VOICE TO BE SILENCED -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree w/Ogre. From a Christian stand point I view homosexuality to be a sin. I am called to love the sinner and hate the sin.  For any Christian who reads this post I am most specifically speaking to you.  We love the sinner by praying and helping break the chains of bondage to that sin. A married man has an addiction to pornography we don&#8217;t say &#8220;I love you and here are the latest Vivid videos&#8221;.  Loving the sinner is not embracing and making exception to the sin.  As for my opinion about the Supreme Court this country is &#8220;For the people by the people&#8221; &#8211; THE PEOPLE SPOKE!!! We are speaking louder this time I encourage everyone to vote YES ON PROP8 &#8211; DON&#8217;T ALLOW YOUR VOICE TO BE SILENCED -</p>
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		<title>By: Cao</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 21:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The opinions of the entire medical community?

That is hilarious.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Kinsey was known as the great scientist of sex, the man who fearlessly and dispassionately sorted out the true nature of our sexuality from the false, unscientific beliefs that have for so long hidden the truth from us. The standard picture of Kinsey depicted during his lifetime was the dour scientist dressed in a lab coat, patiently sorting through reams of data with his equally reputable and objective coworkers.

That picture of Kinsey does not reveal who Kinsey really was. In fact, such pictures were carefully staged by Kinsey and his &quot;research&quot; team as part of their ongoing propaganda campaign. Behind the scenes, we find the real Kinsey: a homosexual and a sado-masochist, bent on using the trappings of science to force his perversions upon society.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

See:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ignatiusinsight.com/features/bwiker_kinsey_nov04.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;  Dedicated Scientist or Sexual Deviant?&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Wiker: The sole purpose of Kinsey’s various studies was to legitimate any and every kind of sexual activity, from adultery and homosexuality, to pedophilia and bestiality. Kinsey himself was, from his very early youth, a sado-masochistic homosexual. His father, Alfred Sr., was a staunch, no-nonsense Protestant who ran the household with an iron fist. Of course, young Alfred hid his sexual perversions from his father, and the contradiction between his outward moral uprightness and his inward, hidden sexual distortions caused him great anxiety. But by the time he went to graduate school, Kinsey was determined to use science to eliminate this anxiety. How? By eliminating the distinction between natural and unnatural in regard to sexuality. He wanted to use science to &quot;prove&quot; that every sexual desire, no matter how bizarre, is natural.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He actually circumcized himself with a pocket knife in a bathtub, among other horrendous things.

This is no &#039;scientist&#039; this is a sexual deviant who used pedophiles to rape infants to prove that pedophelia is okay and that children have sexual urges.

These same types are the ones that &#039;counseled&#039; the pedophile priests.  Is it no wonder that there was such a problem in the catholic church when they weren&#039;t counseled by their psychologists that it was WRONG?  SICK?  Or that they should be kept away from children?

Caos last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://caosblog.com/7881&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Newsbusted&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The opinions of the entire medical community?</p>
<p>That is hilarious.</p>
<blockquote><p>Kinsey was known as the great scientist of sex, the man who fearlessly and dispassionately sorted out the true nature of our sexuality from the false, unscientific beliefs that have for so long hidden the truth from us. The standard picture of Kinsey depicted during his lifetime was the dour scientist dressed in a lab coat, patiently sorting through reams of data with his equally reputable and objective coworkers.</p>
<p>That picture of Kinsey does not reveal who Kinsey really was. In fact, such pictures were carefully staged by Kinsey and his &#8220;research&#8221; team as part of their ongoing propaganda campaign. Behind the scenes, we find the real Kinsey: a homosexual and a sado-masochist, bent on using the trappings of science to force his perversions upon society.</p></blockquote>
<p>See:  <a href="http://www.ignatiusinsight.com/features/bwiker_kinsey_nov04.asp" rel="nofollow">  Dedicated Scientist or Sexual Deviant?</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Wiker: The sole purpose of Kinsey’s various studies was to legitimate any and every kind of sexual activity, from adultery and homosexuality, to pedophilia and bestiality. Kinsey himself was, from his very early youth, a sado-masochistic homosexual. His father, Alfred Sr., was a staunch, no-nonsense Protestant who ran the household with an iron fist. Of course, young Alfred hid his sexual perversions from his father, and the contradiction between his outward moral uprightness and his inward, hidden sexual distortions caused him great anxiety. But by the time he went to graduate school, Kinsey was determined to use science to eliminate this anxiety. How? By eliminating the distinction between natural and unnatural in regard to sexuality. He wanted to use science to &#8220;prove&#8221; that every sexual desire, no matter how bizarre, is natural.</p></blockquote>
<p>He actually circumcized himself with a pocket knife in a bathtub, among other horrendous things.</p>
<p>This is no &#8216;scientist&#8217; this is a sexual deviant who used pedophiles to rape infants to prove that pedophelia is okay and that children have sexual urges.</p>
<p>These same types are the ones that &#8216;counseled&#8217; the pedophile priests.  Is it no wonder that there was such a problem in the catholic church when they weren&#8217;t counseled by their psychologists that it was WRONG?  SICK?  Or that they should be kept away from children?</p>
<p>Caos last blog post..<a href="http://caosblog.com/7881" rel="nofollow">Newsbusted</a></p>
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		<title>By: kender</title>
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		<dc:creator>kender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 21:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas, alcoholism causes diseases to happen, but they happen from the abuse the alcoholic inflicts on themselves.  It is a choice to drink too much, smoke too much or use drugs that destroy ones body.

A CHOICE!

The fact that personal responsibility has been taken out of the equation and that people can blame their bad choices on outside forces is part of the problem. 

The fact that you either cannot grasp that fact or willingly ignore it proves my earlier comments to you.

I stand by my assessment of you being an idiot, stupid, gullible and a moron and now need to add in brainwashed, indoctrinated and hopeless.

It is people such as yourself, that believe as you do and think as you do that is directly the reason this country is where she is now and where she is headed. Congratulations on doing your part to destroy what was once a great nation, ASSHAT!

kenders last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://kendersmusings.blogspot.com/2008/05/how-john-mccain-can-end-welfare-and.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How John McCain Can End Welfare and Save the Environment&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas, alcoholism causes diseases to happen, but they happen from the abuse the alcoholic inflicts on themselves.  It is a choice to drink too much, smoke too much or use drugs that destroy ones body.</p>
<p>A CHOICE!</p>
<p>The fact that personal responsibility has been taken out of the equation and that people can blame their bad choices on outside forces is part of the problem. </p>
<p>The fact that you either cannot grasp that fact or willingly ignore it proves my earlier comments to you.</p>
<p>I stand by my assessment of you being an idiot, stupid, gullible and a moron and now need to add in brainwashed, indoctrinated and hopeless.</p>
<p>It is people such as yourself, that believe as you do and think as you do that is directly the reason this country is where she is now and where she is headed. Congratulations on doing your part to destroy what was once a great nation, ASSHAT!</p>
<p>kenders last blog post..<a href="http://kendersmusings.blogspot.com/2008/05/how-john-mccain-can-end-welfare-and.html" rel="nofollow">How John McCain Can End Welfare and Save the Environment</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cao</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 21:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those that turn the gay marriage issue into a civil rights issue are missing the boat.

There is nothing &quot;natural&quot; about anal sex...or women lying with women.  If that&#039;s &quot;natural&quot;, then let&#039;s legalize polygamy, beastiality and pedophelia.

This is just deviant behavior.

Homosexuals are deviants; they are not an &#039;oppressed group&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those that turn the gay marriage issue into a civil rights issue are missing the boat.</p>
<p>There is nothing &#8220;natural&#8221; about anal sex&#8230;or women lying with women.  If that&#8217;s &#8220;natural&#8221;, then let&#8217;s legalize polygamy, beastiality and pedophelia.</p>
<p>This is just deviant behavior.</p>
<p>Homosexuals are deviants; they are not an &#8216;oppressed group&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 18:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You cannot be more clear;

&lt;em&gt;By overturning a law voted on by the people, the court overstepped its bounds and went counter to the people’s will.&lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s it - end of story.  You wrote it, you own it.  Show me one of those &quot;different articles&quot;. I&#039;m curious to read one.

As for the DSM on homosexuality, it was not changed by the APA due to some sort of gay lobby.  You just made that up.  Give me a link that substantiates that.  Sure, there were protests at their annual meetings, but a scientific body does not re-evaluate their positions based on protests.

In this case, research on human sexuality by people like Alfred Kinsey and Evelyn Hooker shed new light on the issue. The medical community is not immune to old prejudices.  It requires a concensus of the APA membership to change the DSM, and the evidence was clear to them.

I&#039;m curious what, exactly, your role in the medical profession is.  I&#039;m pretty sure you&#039;re not an MD or Ph.D.

Thomass last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://tomsneurosis.blogspot.com/2008/05/your-civics-lesson.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Your Civics Lesson&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cannot be more clear;</p>
<p><em>By overturning a law voted on by the people, the court overstepped its bounds and went counter to the people’s will.</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s it &#8211; end of story.  You wrote it, you own it.  Show me one of those &#8220;different articles&#8221;. I&#8217;m curious to read one.</p>
<p>As for the DSM on homosexuality, it was not changed by the APA due to some sort of gay lobby.  You just made that up.  Give me a link that substantiates that.  Sure, there were protests at their annual meetings, but a scientific body does not re-evaluate their positions based on protests.</p>
<p>In this case, research on human sexuality by people like Alfred Kinsey and Evelyn Hooker shed new light on the issue. The medical community is not immune to old prejudices.  It requires a concensus of the APA membership to change the DSM, and the evidence was clear to them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious what, exactly, your role in the medical profession is.  I&#8217;m pretty sure you&#8217;re not an MD or Ph.D.</p>
<p>Thomass last blog post..<a href="http://tomsneurosis.blogspot.com/2008/05/your-civics-lesson.html" rel="nofollow">Your Civics Lesson</a></p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 16:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas, it is your opinion that I started with a false premise.  I do not believe it to be true and I have read different articles by lawyers who say the same thing though I have seen articles by lawyers who take your point of view.  I could easily say your position is a false premise but since we will never change each other&#039;s minds then we can agree to disagree.

As a medical professional I believe alcoholism to be a disease albeit one that is manifested by the actions of the people who consume it just as cancer is a disease manifested by people who smoke (yes i know other things cause the disease).

Thomas, are you sure you want to make the claim that since the medical body says it is so then it should be?  Several decades ago the DSM classified homosexuality as a mental disorder.  That was changed under pressure from homosexual advocacy groups and not based upon any new science.  They just changed it.  I am not saying there is not science one way or the other just that it was not the basis for the change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas, it is your opinion that I started with a false premise.  I do not believe it to be true and I have read different articles by lawyers who say the same thing though I have seen articles by lawyers who take your point of view.  I could easily say your position is a false premise but since we will never change each other&#8217;s minds then we can agree to disagree.</p>
<p>As a medical professional I believe alcoholism to be a disease albeit one that is manifested by the actions of the people who consume it just as cancer is a disease manifested by people who smoke (yes i know other things cause the disease).</p>
<p>Thomas, are you sure you want to make the claim that since the medical body says it is so then it should be?  Several decades ago the DSM classified homosexuality as a mental disorder.  That was changed under pressure from homosexual advocacy groups and not based upon any new science.  They just changed it.  I am not saying there is not science one way or the other just that it was not the basis for the change.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 14:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Dog, I&#039;m sorry, but I have to take exception to putting our respective positions on the same level of &quot;could be wrong&quot;-ness.

You started off by stating that a court had no business over-turning the &quot;will of the people&quot;.  You started off with a completely false premise, and you don&#039;t have to have a J.D. to understand that.  Courts have ruled contrary to over-whelming public opinion over and over, and they will continue to do that.

So sorry.. when you get the basic, most fundamental concept of jurisprudence wrong, it&#039;s not an &quot;agree to disagree&quot; argument.  If you had merely suggested that there was a rational basis for the judges to allow for marriage laws to exclude same-sex couples, that&#039;s completely different, but that was NOT your argument.

You argued that the courts view of Constitutional law is somehow linked to public opinion.  If you&#039;d like to retract that point, and merely argue rational basis, then fine.

Kender, you&#039;re just being silly.  It&#039;s not &quot;part of the left&#039;s plan&quot; to have people with alcoholism, and other assorted drug additions, &quot;deemed diseased&quot;.  They already are.  The entire - and I mean the entire, medical and scientific communites of the entire world already define it as a &quot;disease&quot; - and there&#039;s Kender, thinking it&#039;s a leftist plot to ruin America.

You do know there are physiological components to addiction, right?  I mean, because you are contradicting the opinions of the entire medical community, I assume you have at least a Ph.D in biology and have written numerous papers documenting your findings, right?

Or.. can you point to 1.. just 1 single study which even claims that alcoholism is not a disease.  Can you do that?

See.. this is the basic problem I have with conservatives.  Here Kender is, calling me stupid and gulliable because I think Alcoholism is a disease.. when he is the one holding the far fringe viewpoint that it is not.  The world&#039;s bodies of experts call it is a disease, and there is Kender, railing with his insistence that it is not... thinking everyone else is stupid.. but not him.. noooo.. Kender has it all figured out.

Do you think the American Medical Association is some leftist conspiracy?  How about the American Psychiatric Association?

How about your own government.  The National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism.
http://www.niaaa.nih.gov/FAQs/General-English/default.htm#disease

This whole thing is just really bizzare.  I&#039;ve always considered that a majority of the right wing resents and denies scientific communities, but I&#039;ve never seen it go this far before.

Honestly Kender.. how can you possibly call me &quot;stupid&quot; and &quot;guiliable&quot; when the entire - and I&#039;m not talking about a couple of people - the entire medical community of the United States, as well as the rest of the world, classifies it as a diease?  Do you think that if you are the one that has the extreme fringe viewpoint on this, maybe you are the stupid one?  You think that&#039;s even possible?

It&#039;s weird the way you see conspiracies and agendas behind everything.  Medical care doesn&#039;t have a political agenda, it&#039;s just a practical application of the best science available.  I&#039;m sorry you have such a problem with it.

But please.. you might be a little more careful throwing around the &quot;stupid&quot; and &quot;guiliable&quot; labels when you&#039;re the one with the weird, fringe, completely out of touch, mis-informed, down right ignorant, view.

&#039;k?

Thomass last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://tomsneurosis.blogspot.com/2008/05/just-stunning.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Just Stunning&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Dog, I&#8217;m sorry, but I have to take exception to putting our respective positions on the same level of &#8220;could be wrong&#8221;-ness.</p>
<p>You started off by stating that a court had no business over-turning the &#8220;will of the people&#8221;.  You started off with a completely false premise, and you don&#8217;t have to have a J.D. to understand that.  Courts have ruled contrary to over-whelming public opinion over and over, and they will continue to do that.</p>
<p>So sorry.. when you get the basic, most fundamental concept of jurisprudence wrong, it&#8217;s not an &#8220;agree to disagree&#8221; argument.  If you had merely suggested that there was a rational basis for the judges to allow for marriage laws to exclude same-sex couples, that&#8217;s completely different, but that was NOT your argument.</p>
<p>You argued that the courts view of Constitutional law is somehow linked to public opinion.  If you&#8217;d like to retract that point, and merely argue rational basis, then fine.</p>
<p>Kender, you&#8217;re just being silly.  It&#8217;s not &#8220;part of the left&#8217;s plan&#8221; to have people with alcoholism, and other assorted drug additions, &#8220;deemed diseased&#8221;.  They already are.  The entire &#8211; and I mean the entire, medical and scientific communites of the entire world already define it as a &#8220;disease&#8221; &#8211; and there&#8217;s Kender, thinking it&#8217;s a leftist plot to ruin America.</p>
<p>You do know there are physiological components to addiction, right?  I mean, because you are contradicting the opinions of the entire medical community, I assume you have at least a Ph.D in biology and have written numerous papers documenting your findings, right?</p>
<p>Or.. can you point to 1.. just 1 single study which even claims that alcoholism is not a disease.  Can you do that?</p>
<p>See.. this is the basic problem I have with conservatives.  Here Kender is, calling me stupid and gulliable because I think Alcoholism is a disease.. when he is the one holding the far fringe viewpoint that it is not.  The world&#8217;s bodies of experts call it is a disease, and there is Kender, railing with his insistence that it is not&#8230; thinking everyone else is stupid.. but not him.. noooo.. Kender has it all figured out.</p>
<p>Do you think the American Medical Association is some leftist conspiracy?  How about the American Psychiatric Association?</p>
<p>How about your own government.  The National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism.<br />
<a href="http://www.niaaa.nih.gov/FAQs/General-English/default.htm#disease" rel="nofollow">http://www.niaaa.nih.gov/FAQs/General-English/default.htm#disease</a></p>
<p>This whole thing is just really bizzare.  I&#8217;ve always considered that a majority of the right wing resents and denies scientific communities, but I&#8217;ve never seen it go this far before.</p>
<p>Honestly Kender.. how can you possibly call me &#8220;stupid&#8221; and &#8220;guiliable&#8221; when the entire &#8211; and I&#8217;m not talking about a couple of people &#8211; the entire medical community of the United States, as well as the rest of the world, classifies it as a diease?  Do you think that if you are the one that has the extreme fringe viewpoint on this, maybe you are the stupid one?  You think that&#8217;s even possible?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s weird the way you see conspiracies and agendas behind everything.  Medical care doesn&#8217;t have a political agenda, it&#8217;s just a practical application of the best science available.  I&#8217;m sorry you have such a problem with it.</p>
<p>But please.. you might be a little more careful throwing around the &#8220;stupid&#8221; and &#8220;guiliable&#8221; labels when you&#8217;re the one with the weird, fringe, completely out of touch, mis-informed, down right ignorant, view.</p>
<p>&#8216;k?</p>
<p>Thomass last blog post..<a href="http://tomsneurosis.blogspot.com/2008/05/just-stunning.html" rel="nofollow">Just Stunning</a></p>
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		<title>By: kender</title>
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		<dc:creator>kender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas, your attitude and acceptance of bullsh*t definitions of alcoholism is a major part of the problem in this country.

Alcoholics CHOOSE to drink.  The booze does not jump into their throats.  It is a matter of personal responsibility.  Once we accept that drugs and alcohol use is not a choice we teach people that they are powerless creatures and victims of something they can&#039;t control, when in reality we all choose how to treat our bodies.  The same actually goes for smokers and people that practice unsafe sex.

Part of the left&#039;s plan (check the commie manifesto) is to get drug users and alcoholics deemed diseased.  It is people such as yourself that are ruining the country through your stupidity and gullibility, and your belief in a personal choice being a disease proves beyond a doubt that you have the reasoning capabilities of a lower order of fungi.

kenders last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://kendersmusings.blogspot.com/2008/05/how-john-mccain-can-end-welfare-and.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How John McCain Can End Welfare and Save the Environment&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas, your attitude and acceptance of bullsh*t definitions of alcoholism is a major part of the problem in this country.</p>
<p>Alcoholics CHOOSE to drink.  The booze does not jump into their throats.  It is a matter of personal responsibility.  Once we accept that drugs and alcohol use is not a choice we teach people that they are powerless creatures and victims of something they can&#8217;t control, when in reality we all choose how to treat our bodies.  The same actually goes for smokers and people that practice unsafe sex.</p>
<p>Part of the left&#8217;s plan (check the commie manifesto) is to get drug users and alcoholics deemed diseased.  It is people such as yourself that are ruining the country through your stupidity and gullibility, and your belief in a personal choice being a disease proves beyond a doubt that you have the reasoning capabilities of a lower order of fungi.</p>
<p>kenders last blog post..<a href="http://kendersmusings.blogspot.com/2008/05/how-john-mccain-can-end-welfare-and.html" rel="nofollow">How John McCain Can End Welfare and Save the Environment</a></p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no problem with law and, as I stated, we have a difference of opinion.  You think I am wrong and I think you are wrong.  That does not mean that I misunderstand, it means I disagree.  Unless you have a law degree you are stating what you believe to be true but you could be wrong, same with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem with law and, as I stated, we have a difference of opinion.  You think I am wrong and I think you are wrong.  That does not mean that I misunderstand, it means I disagree.  Unless you have a law degree you are stating what you believe to be true but you could be wrong, same with me.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.onebigdog.net/why-california-gay-marriage-ruling-is-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-119669</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kender, when you claim that alcoholism is NOT a disease, you ought to phrase it such as.. &quot;despite the conclusions of the entire medial community, I (and I&#039;m not a medical doctor, nor am I in any way trained with any particular expertise in the medical field) think it&#039;s not a disease.&quot;

As the American Medical Association describes;
&quot;a primary, chronic &lt;b&gt;disease&lt;/b&gt; characterized by impaired control over drinking, preoccupation with the drug alcohol, use of alcohol despite adverse consequences, and distortions in thinking.&quot;

It&#039;s not surprising that you completely ignore the science behind the condition.

It&#039;s kind of like how you should phrase your opposition to the Court&#039;s ruling in California.  You should include the disclaimer that you have no particular training or expertise, and you are disagreeing with people who have made the study of law their life&#039;s work.

BigDog, we can agree to disagree.  My issue is with the mishcaracterization on the basic principles of government.  You started out this whole thing by writing;

&lt;em&gt; The courts are in place to rule on matters of law. By overturning a law voted on by the people, the court overstepped its bounds and went counter to the people’s will.&lt;/em&gt;

Despite the fact that state and federal courts have done exactly that innumerable times in the history of this nation.  Their role is not to bow to popular will, but to follow the rule of law.

You should have included a disclaimer that you support the court in striking down laws that enjoy massive support of the populace (such as anti-miscongeniation laws), but you do not support the court in doing so when you are morally opposed to their decision.

In other words, the court is just in it&#039;s action when you agree with the decision, but they are &quot;creating law&quot; when you don&#039;t.  That&#039;s what it all boils down to.

I have absolutely no problem with your opinion of gays, same-sex marriage, or any other issue of &quot;morality&quot;.  I may disagree with your view, but obviously everyone has their own opinion. I do have a problem when people are factually, willfully, wrong about basic principles of law.

Thomass last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://tomsneurosis.blogspot.com/2008/05/just-stunning.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Just Stunning&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kender, when you claim that alcoholism is NOT a disease, you ought to phrase it such as.. &#8220;despite the conclusions of the entire medial community, I (and I&#8217;m not a medical doctor, nor am I in any way trained with any particular expertise in the medical field) think it&#8217;s not a disease.&#8221;</p>
<p>As the American Medical Association describes;<br />
&#8220;a primary, chronic <b>disease</b> characterized by impaired control over drinking, preoccupation with the drug alcohol, use of alcohol despite adverse consequences, and distortions in thinking.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not surprising that you completely ignore the science behind the condition.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of like how you should phrase your opposition to the Court&#8217;s ruling in California.  You should include the disclaimer that you have no particular training or expertise, and you are disagreeing with people who have made the study of law their life&#8217;s work.</p>
<p>BigDog, we can agree to disagree.  My issue is with the mishcaracterization on the basic principles of government.  You started out this whole thing by writing;</p>
<p><em> The courts are in place to rule on matters of law. By overturning a law voted on by the people, the court overstepped its bounds and went counter to the people’s will.</em></p>
<p>Despite the fact that state and federal courts have done exactly that innumerable times in the history of this nation.  Their role is not to bow to popular will, but to follow the rule of law.</p>
<p>You should have included a disclaimer that you support the court in striking down laws that enjoy massive support of the populace (such as anti-miscongeniation laws), but you do not support the court in doing so when you are morally opposed to their decision.</p>
<p>In other words, the court is just in it&#8217;s action when you agree with the decision, but they are &#8220;creating law&#8221; when you don&#8217;t.  That&#8217;s what it all boils down to.</p>
<p>I have absolutely no problem with your opinion of gays, same-sex marriage, or any other issue of &#8220;morality&#8221;.  I may disagree with your view, but obviously everyone has their own opinion. I do have a problem when people are factually, willfully, wrong about basic principles of law.</p>
<p>Thomass last blog post..<a href="http://tomsneurosis.blogspot.com/2008/05/just-stunning.html" rel="nofollow">Just Stunning</a></p>
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