Who handed that talking point down to you? You use it a lot lately.

“The Democrats started the KKK…”

No, they really didn’t. You act as if a group of Democrats got together and said, “Hey, you know what will help our party? Let’s form a terrorist group.” But either way the KKK has always been a right-wing terrorist group whether you call them Democrats or not.

“Garofolo’s statements about Hermain Cain are racist and yet no one called her on it.”

How so?

The idea that there are more examples of racism on the right is a moronic statement. The reality is, what you call racism differs depending on who said or did it.

You change the definition so that you define what the right does as racist and what the left does as non racist. If it is racist then it is racist. You claim context but that is a ruse to keep people enslaved. Garofolo’s statements about Hermain Cain are racist and yet no one called her on it.

It’s not funny. It’s just history. I wouldn’t go so far as to say the Democrats started the KKK because that’s nonsense but they certainly made a place in politics for segregationists, klan members, and other racists. That’s not the modern party of course but you love to tell the story as if it is.

“Your policies are based on the idea that without help, blacks could not make it.”

No. It was just a recognition of the racism built into the structure of society itself.

“Sharpton, Jackson and many in your party have either said that, implied it, or been a party to it.”

Your problem is simply that you don’t understand how context matters. There are simply more examples of conservatives being racist and sexist than there are liberals so it’s hard to keep track. It’s like saying there are no hate crimes against whites. Of course there are. They just are few and far between compared to the actions of white people against other races they fear and hate.

Liberal policies are racist. Affirmative action is racist. The welfare policies are racist. They say that blacks are not competent enough to make it on their own and must have the liberal elites step in and do for them. Your policies are based on the idea that without help, blacks could not make it.

The tragedy is, those very policies have kept them down for decades.

Is there any other explanation for having these policies except that you all believe they need the help because they can’t take care of themselves?

And just because you claim people are wrong does not make it so. We already know your skewed ideas of racism. If a Republican says it then it is racist and if a Democrat says it then it can’t be racist. Sharpton, Jackson and many in your party have either said that, implied it, or been a party to it.

Look, I can’t help it your party used to be progressive and on top of these issues but now makes a home for conservatives of all hats and hoods. My party has grown more and more liberal while yours has taken in any conservative that would join your ranks.

The kind of politician that would set back a civil rights agenda is not in the mainstream of the Democratic Party and hasn’t been for 50 years.

How exactly did the Republicans take over the South in your opinion if they didn’t gain southern segregationist Democratic votes? Did southern segregationist Democrats just cease to exist leaving more GOP voters? We know southern blacks were shifting to the Democratic Party so somehow the GOP made up for that loss with some other source of voters. Where did they come from?

For the record I’m not suggesting that more Republicans opposed civil rights than Democrats. You seem to have thought that I was re-writing history from the beginning of this thread. No, it’s simply that you’re denying that civil rights became a platform of the Democratic Party even before MLK was old enough to vote in elections. For you to suggest MLK would never consider himself a Democrat simply because Southern racist Democrats were still in the party denies that the party began to shift as early as the New Deal.

No basis except the actual history of the two parties. The change didn’t happen over night. The New Deal began to shift the Democratic Party in a huge way. Look up the Dixiecrats. Look up what happened in the 1948 Democratic Convention as they started to adopt civil rights as an issue to the opposition of the Southern Democrats.

They didn’t just one day become Republicans. They started other parties that failed but eventually the Democratic South started voting GOP. How do you think Republicans started winning Southern elections if there wasn’t a realignment between Southern conservative Democrats beginning to vote Republican?

“…we have paid young women who have children out of wedlock.”

How have we paid?

More Republicans supported and voted for the civil rights legislation than did Democrats so how does the argument that Democrats moved to the Republican party because Democrats were pushing civil rights hold water?

It is not offensive or pathetic. You get more of what you subsidize and for decades we have paid young women who have children out of wedlock. We have provided a disincentive for them to get married or for the father to stay around. When we pay for that, we get more of it.