Comments on: Water Boarding Tortures AG Confirmation

By: Adam

Adam — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:54:36 +0000

Your problem is you just assume the number is so little as to mean next to nothing compared to the chance that information gathered by harsh interrogation will prevent a real terrorist attack. The truth is we don’t know for sure what percentage of these people are guilty.

It’s an astonishing leap of faith that lets our country head down a very dark path.

If Murat Kurnaz was your father or son or even a close friend maybe we wouldn’t be having this conversation. These ‘exceptions’ are not eggs broken to make an omelet. They are as innocent as those that died on 9/11.

By: Patsy

Patsy — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:15:40 +0000

I am indignant, righteous or otherwise, Adam. The detainees at Gitmo, with a couple of exceptions, are the savages I have insisted they are. We are at war with them, stop trying to apply First Amendment privileges to the exceptions, they aren’t entitled to them and we don’t have time to wait while the slow wheels of justice work. We had 3,000 innocent fellow Americans killed on 9/11/2001. Those are the violated civil rights I am concerned about, Adam. Not the countrymen whose ideology brought about that awful day.
When they surrender their hate-filled ideology and decide to peacefully coexist with the rest of humanity, then I’ll concern myself with the rights of those being help at Gitmo. Until that day comes to pass, I just don’t give a damn about their rights.

By: Adam

Adam — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:08:11 +0000

Patsy:

Again, not every detainee held captive in the war on terror is a terrorist. Mistakes have been made. The Command Intelligence Task Force has admitted mistakes have been made.

Look, cut out the righteous indignation. I do not presume to suggest what we should and shouldn’t do with terrorists, but I do ask that people like you wake up and realize that you cannot simply argue for torture of detainees because you assume they are all enemies of the US or our allies. They are not. You are wrong.

By: Patsy

Patsy — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:32:57 +0000

Adam, what are you, an innocent? Who do you think we’re fighting in this war, civilized folks from democratically governed countries who have fair judicial systems? No, we’re not and those who are fighting are the radicals, the moderates stay home with their heads down and keep out of the way. If we capture someone during gun battles in Iraq or Afghanistan, it’s under fire, during military combat. These guys are not soccer players, they’re killers who are fanatics about Islam and they will cut off you head with a knife starting at the front of your throat. And you’re wrong, every last one of them will do it, in a heartbeat.

Mental stress? Traumatic stress? What are you a kindergarten teacher? Who the heck cares if we put stress on terrorists? Stress? What the hell are you talking about? They have no rights, they forfeited those when they made the decision to go to war against us. They don’t deserve any humane treatment at all. Waterboarding is nothing in comparison to the torture they inflict, beheading being the worst of it. Please, grow up. These are not human beings, they’re subhuman animals, defective killers.

By: David M

David M — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:29:06 +0000

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By: Ed Flinn

Ed Flinn — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:19:49 +0000

Be fair, there are more than a few Republicans in congress who’d also benefit from a session or two of waterboarding, too.

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By: Adam

Adam — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:31:13 +0000

Let me remind you fine folks that the people we interrogate are not always the same people who cut heads off. It may make you feel better to think the only people we put in stress positions and have undergo waterboarding are evil people, but that's not been proven to be the case. Apparently to many of you these guys are guilty until proven innocent and thus stress positions, sleep deprivation, and waterboarding are all good to go. Never mind the fact that "no permanent injuries" is a laugher and that studies by JAMA show that the mental distress and traumatic stress associated with going through many of the treatments common in GITMO and other locations is the same as with actual physical torture.

By: irtexas44

irtexas44 — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:37:12 +0000

BD,

OK, they don’t approve of waterboarding. So lets just show them the same courtsey as they show our troops and civilians that they kidnap. Sever their damn heads off. Show them the same conditions they show for their prisoners. Filth, bad food, brain washing, I guess that’s all fair in war. I volunteer the dim’s to go and be the first honoree’s. I don’t think slosho Kennedy will like it, no booze. These jerks are so pathetic.

By: Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator

Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 03:44:12 +0000

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