The Dumbest People In The Room
by Blake on Jul 8, 2009 at 08:43 Political
Yes, it has come to that- those are the people we elect nowadays- the dumbest people in the room, the ones who sat in the back of the class, and slept through the classes on math, and history, because they were boring. These are the ones who either had rich daddies, or made a living selling drugs and scamming the other students.
There is a set of people who have a native slyness, one that allows them to sidestep the ordinary rigors of actually doing the work that needs to be done, finding instead ways for others to do the work, and for themselves to grab the credit. These are the people who have, by and large, been elected to office, with their main accomplishments being able to read from a teleprompter, or having been married to another slacker who had been elected president.
Biden’s main accomplishment seems to be that he rode a train without getting lost or falling off. Some of the others are even less clear on their positive benefits to society. Geithner? Sorry, he’s Secretary of the Treasury, and can’t even count- Janet Napolitano? She was a Governor of a border state, and was apparently blind to illegal immigration. What? Yea, you heard me- I said she wouldn’t know a Mexican if she was to see one, and she probably had an army of them sprucing up the Governor’s mansion.
Charlie Rangel? He is the one responsible for writing the tax code that you and I have to follow, but he apparently does not, with rental properties in the Dominican Republic, and leased cars going untaxed- why? His response was that he did not understand the tax code. What?
And all the “Czars”? The guy in charge of the cars has no knowledge of the auto industry, and all the rest do not know what they are doing- all they DO know is that they are to be loyal to the death for Hussein- okay, maybe not death- but then again, how do we know?
Hussein has been busy re-making America (at least the financial sector, so far) in the socialist image, where if you have spare money, well you might as well give it to someone poor, because the government surely will.
Barney Frank, the architect of the home mortgage meltdown, now wants to do the same thing for condominiums, asking Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac to loosen regulations so poor people can buy condos- this is how things got so bad in the first place- Franks forced the banks to loosen the regulations on home loans, which were guaranteed by Fannie Mae, because Barney Franks forced them to do so, and the whole house of cards came tumbling down.
If the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result, Barney Franks and anyone else on the Banking Committee who agrees with him are insane. They should be wearing a special helmet and kept away from sharp objects.
And now Hussein “isn’t ruling out a second stimulus?” I’m sorry, but I feel the country has been over- stimulated as it is- the last thing we need is some know- nothing saying, “Spend mo’ money!” “Show me the Benjamins!” It is obvious that he is and has been over his head on virtually every issue except possibly planting Michelle’s garden- wait, that was her decision? Scratch that last comment.
Just how stupid do these people have to be before we say, “No, nope, they are too brain dead to elect them.” I mean, it is not like elective office is a playtime where they can eat glue and play with rounded scissors- if it was, it surely wouldn’t affect all phases of our lives as it does.
We need the smartest people in the room, not the dumbest.
Yet look at who we elected.
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“Biden’s main accomplishment seems to be that he rode a train without getting lost or falling off.”
Considering how dumb Biden is, that’s actually fairly impressive.
“And now Hussein “isn’t ruling out a second stimulus?””
I say do it, Barry. We all know what’ll happen if you do. I’ve seen the polls and know that the vast majority oppose a second ‘stimulus.’
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BLAKE
those are the people we elect nowadays-
SAV
Oh, what fun this will be…
BLAKE
the dumbest people in the room …. These are the ones who either had rich daddies,
SAV
who can buy their way into schools for them.
BLAKE
people who … sidestep the ordinary rigors of actually doing the work that needs to be done, finding instead ways for others to do the work, and for themselves to grab the credit.
SAV
Yeah, why not have strings pulled so that you can join a branch of the military and not only you have zero chance of actually doing anything productive but also that you hardly have to show up? Why not have your daddy get you into a school where you can keep academics low on the priority scale but still walk away with a degree?
BLAKE
… their main accomplishments being able to read from a teleprompter, or having been married to another slacker who had been elected president.
SAV
or using an earpiece in a live debate, or being the son of someone who had been elected president.
BLAKE
Just how stupid do these people have to be before we say, “No, nope, they are too brain dead to elect them.”
SAV
Democrats are eight (or more) years ahead of you, Blake.
BLAKE
We need the smartest people in the room, not the dumbest.
SAV
Obama graduated from Harvard Law School. GWB was rejected from the University of Texas Law School.
BLAKE
Yet look at who we elected.
SAV
And you did so twice.
You keep on assuming, savvie, and just who does that make look dumb? I guess you must be in that room too.
I didn’t assume a thing, Blake. I simply applied your statements to the previous Republican president, using the current Democratic president as a reference when necessary. Kinda puts things in perspective, doesn’t it?
There is (was) a lot about Bush I would have changed, but at least he had the stones to try and do some things that needed doing, but was blocked by the libbies on everything from Social Security to this financial crisis which the dems began in the banking and finance committees. Di
bush make mistakes? Yes, at least one- he approved the ignorant bailouts and stimulus- that was a truly stupid move- but your jug- eared rag doll of a Resident really takes the cake.
I wrote about the CURRENT administration, as the previous one is not in power, except in your mind.
So these NEW people are supposed to get us out of what you claim the previous one got us INTO?
\Doesn’t look to good for your team- in fact, they have spent four times what Bush has done- and the crisis is all the Dems, as they were the ones who caused it.
You all say it happened on “Bush’s Watch”, as if he alone is supposed to solve this debacle of the Dems own making- but it is the Legislature that makes the laws, not the President, or do you not know about “checks and balances”?
Blake, it would be really neat to hear you actually respond to what Savonarola is saying. It really is ironic that you would post what you did, criticizing current leaders when your criticisms clearly, and more appropriately apply to George W. Bush. What do you have to say about GW Bush’s college record?
George Bush had a higher GPA than Kerry and he flew fighter jets so it is not like he was stupid. And at least Bush went into a branch of the military while Obama was writing anti military columns for the paper.
The same military he is now in command of loved Bush. He is a genuine leader unlike the guy in there now.
I want to know when the MSM will start the body count of troops that are dying in Afghanistan because of Hussein.
Bush has two Master’s Degrees so he can’t be all that dumb.
George W. Bush has two Master’s Degrees?
DOG
it is not like [GWB] was stupid.
SAV
Yet the above statements that Blake directs at people he dubs “stupid” apply very, very well to GWB. If GWB isn’t stupid, then Blake’s statements must not be sufficient conditions for indicating stupidity.
DOG
And at least Bush went into a branch of the military while Obama was writing anti military columns for the paper.
SAV
I’d argue that speaking out against improper military action is more honorable than “entering the military” in a way that ensures you never see combat, but that’s admittedly an opinion.
DOG
… the body count of troops that are dying in Afghanistan because of Hussein.
SAV
This is where you gut your respectability, Dog. Afghanistan was a quagmire that only dropped off of U.S. citizens’ radar because of an overhyped, bullheaded invasion of Iraq. Afghanistan was still a mess before Obama took over. It’s unbelievable that the party of warmongering now wants to point fingers at Obama for inheriting a mess.
How would you classify it as improper. All of them were done Constitutionally. Soldiers do not get to decide, they follow the orders. Your claim might make sense if Obama was against a particular war, he is anti military.
DOG
How would you classify it as improper.
SAV
For one recently unpopular example, justified by fabricated “evidence” is a qualifier. But I wasn’t actually talking about any specific example.
DOG
Your claim might make sense if Obama was against a particular war, he is anti military.
SAV
Non-sequitur. My claim makes sense regarding any military impropriety, plus it referenced voluntarily joining the military, so the “soldiers do not get to decide” defense is irrelevant.
BIGD: “George Bush had a higher GPA than Kerry…”>>
DAR
Let’s see if this amounts to anything:
Bush’s four-year average grade was 77; Kerry’s was 76.
There is a phrase for this, it’s called “statistically, insignificant.”
BIGD: “…and he flew fighter jets so it is not like he was stupid.>>
DAR
And why was he joy riding in those soon to be discontinued fighter jets? Let’s ask him:
“I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to Canada. So I chose to better myself by learning how to fly airplanes.” –GW Bush
Fogerty’s “Fortunate Son” (“I Ain’t No Senator’s Son”) should have been written for Chicken Hawk Bush.
BIGD: And at least Bush went into a branch of the military…”>>
DAR
Bush hid out (when he bothered to show up) in a place he new would keep him safe from doing what the military does.
BIGD: The same military he is now in command of loved Bush.>>
DAR
Time to update that one. Bush was so bad he changed that. The military, which used to be a republican stronghold is shifting strongly against them. You can thank your warmonger in chief for that.
“Three years ago, 60 percent of military voters polled by the Military Times identified themselves as Republican. Today, that number has dropped to 46 percent.” –Dallas Morning News, Monday, July 30, 2007
As to why, see GOP to Vets: Drop Dead!
This carried over to the defense industry too. Bush got a lot more money than Kerry, and then this happened:
“Hillary Clinton receives largest number of military donations… from the defense industry
The defense industry this year abandoned its decade-long commitment to the Republican Party, funneling the lion share of its contributions to Democratic presidential candidates, especially to Hillary Clinton who far out-paced all her competitors.”
Link.
But this is the clincher:
***
War Critics Obama, Ron Paul Get Most Military Donations
“Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Ron Paul have little in common politically, except their opposition to the Iraq war.
Both top a new list of presidential candidates receiving campaign contributions from people who work for the **four branches of the military** and National Guard, according to a study released Thursday by the non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics.
Obama, an Illinois senator, brought in more donations from this group than any White House contender from either party. The Democrat announced Wednesday his plan to withdraw all U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of 2008.” Link.
The military luvs them some ‘Bama. Please make a note of it.
Bigd: I want to know when the MSM will start the body count of troops that are dying in Afghanistan…>>
DAR
ABC lists their names every Sunday morning. When ABC tried to devote a night to honoring them all, by name, the right-wing threw a fit.
You can thank Bush for all the dead. All 5,049 of them.
http://icasualties.org/
BIGD: “Bush has two Master’s Degrees so he can’t be all that dumb.”
DAR
I am not so impressed with “Degrees” and don’t recommend anyone else be impressed either. Bush had a “Bachelor’s degree in history” and an “MBA.” I’m not educated enough to know if that adds up to “two Master’s Degrees” but I don’t think it does.
D.
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“I’m going to spend a lot of time on Social Security. I enjoy it. I enjoy taking on the issue. I guess, it’s the Mother in me.” —George W. Bush, Washington D.C., April 14, 2005
Darrel, care to prove Bush did not show up for drill?
Bigd: “Darrel, care to prove Bush did not show up for drill?”>>
DAR
Sure. I didn’t know anyone even denied that. I have found Cecil Adam’s “The Straight Dope” to be a very dependable source over the years. He gives a nice short account of the standard understanding of this. Read it here:
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2446/did-george-w-bush-go-awol-during-his-time-in-the-national-guard
D.
Oh boy- did you have your tin foil helmet on at the time you read this tripe? Straight dope? It is certainly some kind of dope but I think Cecil has been smoking that.
This lowers my estimate of you quite a bit.
BLK: Oh boy- did you [insult], [insult], [insult]. This lowers my estimate of you quite a bit.>>
DAR
I hope you weren’t under the impression that I was interested in you have a certain “estimate” of me. What my goats think of me matters more (and they think I’m great btw).
So no rebuttal as usual eh? That’s too bad as usual.
If you don’t like the basic info at the Straight Dope. Try:
Factcheck
Or this more in depth article in Salon.
KOS has a timeline nicely laid out here.
Wiki has lots of well referenced information.
Standard stuff, old news. You won’t read it and you wouldn’t understand it if you did. What matters is the Worst President Ever is gone.
D.
You are right- Jiminy Carter is gone- as for your references, every time I have read it, all I have seen is “left wing propaganda, smears, lies, more smears…” I do not believe I have ever seen ANY straight facts- give me some and I’ll read them – as I have had the displeasure to read your propaganda- and I have at least read it, unlike much of what I have posted, or do you forget the ” I would have read it, but it was too verbose….” BS you began one or your senseless comments with?
Not reading something just guarantees you look like a fool.
Salon, Kos, Wiki? Is that ALL you read? it’s no wonder you are how you are- remember, a closed mind catches no knowledge.
BLK: “Salon, Kos, Wiki? Is that ALL you read?”>>
DAR
It’s all standard information Blake. It’s not even controversial. Would you like a dozen more references (to add to the five I gave) to ignore, not read and dismiss with a hand wave?
How are you going to get better if you won’t take your medicine?
D.
Can’t thank Bush for all the dead. Obama said he would bring the troops immediately. That changed but he did not do what he said he would.
BIGD: “Can’t thank Bush for all the dead.”>>
DAR
I think you’re right. I overstated that a bit. The original offensive in Afghanistan had strong bipartisan support. The country, the world, was united.
Unfortunately, it wasn’t followed up properly because of the focus on Iraq. And then, with the fiasco in Irag, it all fell apart, including our support around the world.
BIGD: Obama said he would bring the troops immediately.>>
DAR
What? I must ask again if you are, as my wife likes to put it, “on glue.” You really believe, that Obama said, he would “bring the troops immediately?” Really? My certainty level that your claim is false, is 100%.
Bigd: “That changed but he did not do what he said he would.”>>
DAR
With the previous comment you just showed you have no knowledge of this subject. And of course, you back none of it up.
D.
George Bush is not the Resident, now is he? Should I be as bass- ackwards as liberals who just want to dwell in the past? I was and am talking about PRESENT “leaders” in Washington- What’s wrong with that?
I do not care about GWB’s college record- once again, this is dwelling in the past- I wrote about the CURRENT leadership, but you libs keep on fighting that non- existent devil, you just look even more foolish than usual.
At least the mess that Barry “inherited” has been helped by the surge, a fact that you will never get Barry to honestly admit- because he can’t bring himself to admit he was wrong- that’s a hell of a character flaw.
Sav- given the choice between Gore, or Kerry, I would say we made the right decision- talk about DUMB- they are poster children for brain-dead forms of life.
BLAKE
George Bush is not the Resident, now is he?
SAV
He was, and he had the support of the right, and he fit your criteria for “dumb.” I’m not dwelling in the past, I’m pointing out your hypocrisy. Apparently, you don’t get it. How shocking…
BLAKE
but was blocked by the libbies on everything from Social Security to this financial crisis
SAV
GWB had a rubberstamp Congress who did his bidding for six years. Those six years dug us into a deep hole. There are no liberals to blame for that, Blake.
BLAKE
given the choice between Gore, or Kerry, I would say we made the right decision-
SAV
Of course you would say that; you have some severe reasoning problems. GWB will go down as one of the worst presidents in U.S. history, if not the worst. It takes a complete disconnect from reality to look at where the country is right now and still be happy with the GWB administration.
BS Sav- The Congress that Bush had was a slim majority of Republicans, where Cheney had to break ties, and Dems could filibuster, and threatened to do so at every opportunity- your libbies whole agenda was to deny Bush any victories.
The only reason the Congress ever passed any war resolutions were that they were scared beyond words- probably for themselves, not for the people either. That is how venal and self serving they were.
Where the country is right now is because of Barry Hussie, not Dubya- this is all on jug ears, no one else- and if you think either Gore or Kerry would have done anything better, you are the one with severe reasoning problems.
You libs keep telling that lie, hoping it will stick, but the rest of America is catching on.
BLAKE
Where the country is right now is because of Barry Hussie,
SAV
You have to be batsh** insane to believe this. The problems started while Bush was in office, as evidenced by the bailouts signed by Bush and by the fundamental shift in campaign discussion. How could Obama possibly be the cause? In Neocon-land, causes happen after their effects.
You don’t get to pass off this idiocy and not get called an idiot.
Gee- I have never endorsed what Bush did regarding the bailouts at all, but now this is ALL HUSSEIN, ALL THE TIME, and you have to be, to use your terminology, batsh** insane to try and say that what is happening was all GWB’s fault’
Franks and others loosened the regs for the FMs, causing the banks to engage in risky loans, because they in turn were pushed and prodded by ACORN and other “community organizers”- this is the reason that we are where we are today, and it is a measure of your 1) IGNORANCE, or 2) willful propaganda for the libbies that attempts to perpetuate this myth.
So, which is it? Are you ignorant, or a sock puppet for the Pretender in Charge?
Pick one.
BLAKE
I have never endorsed what Bush did regarding the bailouts at all,
SAV
I didn’t say that you did. The point is that there were huge problems well before Obama did anything. Please keep up, if you can.
BLAKE
Franks and others loosened the regs for the FMs,
SAV
1. You mean Phil Gramm. Well, no you don’t, but you’ve never been good at getting things correct. He spearheaded the push to give the banks what they wanted.
2. Even if you want to blame Frank, that’s not “because of” Obama. You said that it’s because of Obama, and you’re trying to blame Frank (actually “Franks,” because you’re so uninformed about the issue that you can’t even get a name correct). That means that you are WRONG.
BLAKE
Are you ignorant, or a sock puppet for the Pretender in Charge?
SAV
I’ll ignore your false dilemma fallacy to point out that you’re arguing that you’re getting you ass kicked by someone who’s either ignorant or a sock puppet? What does that make you?
Sav- IF you could read for comprehension, you might have seen that I wrote “Franks” and not “Frank”, as you did, so do not attempt to paint ME with the brush of ignorance here.
And no, it was Franks and his bunch, including Dodd, Schumer, Waters, et al, who began this, but if you want to go to the beginning, the genesis, it was Jiminy Carter, and the CRA in the 70s.
Catch up, if you can.
You could never kick my a$$, either physically or mentally, but I have to admit, you are an absolute ace at “fallacy”- you have that down pat, but then so do the alien abductees.