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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.onebigdog.net/the-community-obama-organized/comment-page-1/#comment-123364</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been to Chicago, nice city (in some parts).  However, the history of its politics is rife with corruption and pay offs.  Whether you like that or not, it is a fact.

Some community organizers do a great job.  Ohters use that as a reason to move to elected office (we could not influence votes - Obama)

As honorable as some community organizers might be, being one does not qualify you to be president.  Obama made it a big part of his bio so it is fair game.  But you know what?  I doubt Palin would have mentioned it had Obama not insulted her service as a mayor.

You made a mistake, you have problems like most major metropolitan areas THAT ARE RUN BY DEMOCRATS.

They screw everything up.  Daley is corrupt because it was in his DNA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been to Chicago, nice city (in some parts).  However, the history of its politics is rife with corruption and pay offs.  Whether you like that or not, it is a fact.</p>
<p>Some community organizers do a great job.  Ohters use that as a reason to move to elected office (we could not influence votes &#8211; Obama)</p>
<p>As honorable as some community organizers might be, being one does not qualify you to be president.  Obama made it a big part of his bio so it is fair game.  But you know what?  I doubt Palin would have mentioned it had Obama not insulted her service as a mayor.</p>
<p>You made a mistake, you have problems like most major metropolitan areas THAT ARE RUN BY DEMOCRATS.</p>
<p>They screw everything up.  Daley is corrupt because it was in his DNA.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not here to debate gun control with you.  I was taking issue with an unfair comparison that was made regarding crime statistics.

Your suggestion that people like me, as a resident of Chicago, have to pay off politicians to get things done is condescending.

Like any other major metropolitan area, we have our problems.  But by and large this is a pretty nice place to live.  

I am not surprised that you are unaware of the grassroots movements that have unseated several incumbent aldermen in the last election cycle.  Most people wouldn&#039;t be.  

You don&#039;t like Obama and that&#039;s fine, but by insulting the efforts of community organizers in Chicago you are insulting most Chicagoans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not here to debate gun control with you.  I was taking issue with an unfair comparison that was made regarding crime statistics.</p>
<p>Your suggestion that people like me, as a resident of Chicago, have to pay off politicians to get things done is condescending.</p>
<p>Like any other major metropolitan area, we have our problems.  But by and large this is a pretty nice place to live.  </p>
<p>I am not surprised that you are unaware of the grassroots movements that have unseated several inc**bent aldermen in the last election cycle.  Most people wouldn&#8217;t be.  </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t like Obama and that&#8217;s fine, but by insulting the efforts of community organizers in Chicago you are insulting most Chicagoans.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 14:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy, I do not believe I was condescending.

How many people have been sent to prison for life under this &quot;rule&quot;?  We can&#039;t get people sent to jail for life for murder.  I have no problems with taking away rights from people if they are felons, like gun ownership and VOTING (though voting is not actually a Constitutional right).

It is not gun control it is criminal control.  Now, how many shootings occur in Chicago that are done by people with no records who are law abiding?  Very few.  All these shootings are done by criminals WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE GUNS.  They don&#039;t obey the law, that is why we call them criminals.

Put them in jail and LEAVE them and allow law abiding citizens to carry guns and there will be no problems (in Chicago you need to get rid of the crooked politicians).  Obama&#039;s work made his friends rich.

You can compare two different demographics, or are you saying that Constitutional rights should be based on demographics?  So, we can deny freedom of religion to the people in Reverend Wright&#039;s church because it preaches hatred?  Think about what you are saying...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy, I do not believe I was condescending.</p>
<p>How many people have been sent to prison for life under this &#8220;rule&#8221;?  We can&#8217;t get people sent to jail for life for murder.  I have no problems with taking away rights from people if they are felons, like gun ownership and VOTING (though voting is not actually a Constitutional right).</p>
<p>It is not gun control it is criminal control.  Now, how many shootings occur in Chicago that are done by people with no records who are law abiding?  Very few.  All these shootings are done by criminals WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE GUNS.  They don&#8217;t obey the law, that is why we call them criminals.</p>
<p>Put them in jail and LEAVE them and allow law abiding citizens to carry guns and there will be no problems (in Chicago you need to get rid of the crooked politicians).  Obama&#8217;s work made his friends rich.</p>
<p>You can compare two different demographics, or are you saying that Constitutional rights should be based on demographics?  So, we can deny freedom of religion to the people in Reverend Wright&#8217;s church because it preaches hatred?  Think about what you are saying&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please don&#039;t condescend me Big Dog.  

Also, don&#039;t pretend you know anything about Chicago and how things work around here.  You clearly don&#039;t.  

I happen to like the fact that a person that has been convicted of a violent crime involving a gun will be charged with a felony and jailed for carrying a gun in Chicago.  Like it or not, that is a form of gun control. I don&#039;t like the fact that it is illegal for me, a law abiding citizen, to carry a gun in Chicago. Comparing crime statistics from two entirely different demographics is dishonest and a blatant logical fallacy.  Fritz_Katz was being dishonest.

Obama did a lot of things you praise in his time as a community organizer.  He met with city leaders to change zoning laws to make communities that had just lost factories and the jobs they provided more hospitable for other PRIVATE businesses to move in.  The folks with the jobs then didn&#039;t turn to drugs and crime in desperation.  Perhaps you would have preferred we lock those people up preemtively, before they started committing crimes, instead of providing them with jobs.  But then that would cost taxpayers more money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t condescend me Big Dog.  </p>
<p>Also, don&#8217;t pretend you know anything about Chicago and how things work around here.  You clearly don&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>I happen to like the fact that a person that has been convicted of a violent crime involving a gun will be charged with a felony and jailed for carrying a gun in Chicago.  Like it or not, that is a form of gun control. I don&#8217;t like the fact that it is illegal for me, a law abiding citizen, to carry a gun in Chicago. Comparing crime statistics from two entirely different demographics is dishonest and a blatant logical fallacy.  Fritz_Katz was being dishonest.</p>
<p>Obama did a lot of things you praise in his time as a community organizer.  He met with city leaders to change zoning laws to make communities that had just lost factories and the jobs they provided more hospitable for other PRIVATE businesses to move in.  The folks with the jobs then didn&#8217;t turn to drugs and crime in desperation.  Perhaps you would have preferred we lock those people up preemtively, before they started committing crimes, instead of providing them with jobs.  But then that would cost taxpayers more money.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 03:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to look at gun stats go ahead.  Try looking in states where it is legal to carry a weapon.  Very little murder with guns.

You see, control measures are about control.  The government controlling the LAW abiding citizens.  Criminals do not obey the law so they will not be controlled.

If Obambi was a great organizer you would not get the dump.  In reality, you get this stuff because people PAY OFF your politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to look at gun stats go ahead.  Try looking in states where it is legal to carry a weapon.  Very little murder with guns.</p>
<p>You see, control measures are about control.  The government controlling the LAW abiding citizens.  Criminals do not obey the law so they will not be controlled.</p>
<p>If Obambi was a great organizer you would not get the dump.  In reality, you get this stuff because people PAY OFF your politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ACORNisROTTEN, Fritz_Katz,

Please stop insulting my community.  Fritz_Katz, your comparison to the surrounding counties is stupid.  Apples and Oranges.  Compare the murder rates in Chicago before and after the gun ban, up till todays date.  That statistic is a little more honest.  ACORNisROTTEN, how would you like it if a company wanted to build a garbage dump in your backyard and you were given little recourse on the matter?  

For the record:  I disagree with Chicago&#039;s gun ban, but I think some control measures are a good idea.  Just don&#039;t fudge the numbers.  That is what I have a problem with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACORNisROTTEN, Fritz_Katz,</p>
<p>Please stop insulting my community.  Fritz_Katz, your comparison to the surrounding counties is stupid.  Apples and Oranges.  Compare the murder rates in Chicago before and after the gun ban, up till todays date.  That statistic is a little more honest.  ACORNisROTTEN, how would you like it if a company wanted to build a garbage dump in your backyard and you were given little recourse on the matter?  </p>
<p>For the record:  I disagree with Chicago&#8217;s gun ban, but I think some control measures are a good idea.  Just don&#8217;t fudge the numbers.  That is what I have a problem with.</p>
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		<title>By: ACORNisROTTEN</title>
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		<dc:creator>ACORNisROTTEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why Obama&#039;s &#039;Community Organizer&#039; Days Are a Joke&quot;
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/why_obamas_community_organizer.html

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&quot;What deserves ridicule is the notion that Obama&#039;s brief stint as a South Side rabble-rouser for tax-subsidized, partisan nonprofits qualifies as executive experience you can believe in. 

What deserves derision is &quot;community organizing&quot; that relies on a community of homeless people and ex-cons to organize for the purpose of registering dead people to vote, shaking down corporations and using the race card as a bludgeon.

As I&#039;ve reported previously, Obama&#039;s community organizing days involved training grievance-mongers from the far-left ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now). The ACORN mob is infamous for its bully tactics (which they dub &quot;direct actions&quot;); Obama supporters have recounted his role in organizing an ambush on a government planning meeting about a landfill project opposed by Chicago&#039;s minority lobbies.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why Obama&#8217;s &#8216;Community Organizer&#8217; Days Are a Joke&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/why_obamas_community_organizer.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/why_obamas_community_organizer.html</a></p>
<p>(excerpt)<br />
&#8220;What deserves ridicule is the notion that Obama&#8217;s brief stint as a South Side rabble-rouser for tax-subsidized, partisan nonprofits qualifies as executive experience you can believe in. </p>
<p>What deserves derision is &#8220;community organizing&#8221; that relies on a community of homeless people and ex-cons to organize for the purpose of registering dead people to vote, shaking down corporations and using the race card as a bludgeon.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve reported previously, Obama&#8217;s community organizing days involved training grievance-mongers from the far-left ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now). The ACORN mob is infamous for its bully tactics (which they dub &#8220;direct actions&#8221;); Obama supporters have recounted his role in organizing an ambush on a government planning meeting about a landfill project opposed by Chicago&#8217;s minority lobbies.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So true Bunny Colvin. Actually here in Iowa there&#039;s kind of a debate raging right now because of Biden and the caucus. 

There are a few precints in Iowa that refused to accept Biden as a viable candidate even though (becuase of the ridiculous caucus math) he technically WAS viable. 

I was a Biden precint captian and before the caucus offically started I, and my fellow Biden supporters, were asked to go sit at a candidates table so they could start the caucus. 

A fellow I know who works with the Iowa DNC told me that had Biden delagates been not turned away (as in Des Moines) or properly counted that Biden should have walked away close to Edwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So true Bunny Colvin. Actually here in Iowa there&#8217;s kind of a debate raging right now because of Biden and the caucus. </p>
<p>There are a few precints in Iowa that refused to accept Biden as a viable candidate even though (becuase of the ridiculous caucus math) he technically WAS viable. </p>
<p>I was a Biden precint captian and before the caucus offically started I, and my fellow Biden supporters, were asked to go sit at a candidates table so they could start the caucus. </p>
<p>A fellow I know who works with the Iowa DNC told me that had Biden delagates been not turned away (as in Des Moines) or properly counted that Biden should have walked away close to Edwards.</p>
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		<title>By: Bunny Colvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bunny Colvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 05:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;9000 is more than the number of people who voted for Biden when he was in the presidential race.&quot;

Sarah Palin was elected mayor of Wasilla, Alaska in 1999 with a whopping 909 votes. 909 is less than the number of people who voted for Joe Biden when he was in the presidential race. A few weeks after Biden dropped out of the race, he received over 15,000 votes in Florida.


PEACE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;9000 is more than the number of people who voted for Biden when he was in the presidential race.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sarah Palin was elected mayor of Wasilla, Alaska in 1999 with a whopping 909 votes. 909 is less than the number of people who voted for Joe Biden when he was in the presidential race. A few weeks after Biden dropped out of the race, he received over 15,000 votes in Florida.</p>
<p>PEACE</p>
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