What Kind Of Rule Tells A Marine Not To Engage An Attacker?
Jun 24, 2011 Political
Three US Marines in St. Louis were mugged by two unarmed men who got away with a wallet. Two unarmed muggers punched one Marine and took a knife from another and stabbed him with it (reportedly a minor wound) and made off with a wallet while a third Marine looked on. The Mayor is trying to figure out how this happened and perhaps the story will change but, as it stands, the story is shameful.
How did this happen? Because the Marines have specific rules of engagement:
“Marines have been given rules of engagement not to engage in any violence except to protect their lives,” said Marine Spokeswoman Capt Kate Vanden Bossche.
When asked if the Marines have essentially been told to hand over their wallets in St. Louis, rather than fight to protect their property, Vanden Bossche said: “If someone is in such dire need that they need to rob someone, I don’t think that’s a fight Marines need to get into.” CBS St. Louis
It would seem to me that if one is attacked then there is always the possibility of losing one’s life. It is also unconscionable to say that if a person is so desperate that they need to rob someone then the person, in this case the Marines, should not do anything to stop them. Or, as the spokesperson put it, it is not a fight the Marines need to engage in. What kind of politically correct nonsense is this? Are we to extrapolate this further and say the police should not pursue anyone who is in dire need and robs a bank? How about if a thug is in dire need to rape a female Marine? Should she just submit because this is not the kind of fight Marines want to engage in?
How about we take it further and say that if some entity is in such dire need to attack our country well, its not a fight the Marines should engage in?
These Marines should have engaged the attackers, neutralized them and called for the police. That would be the honorable thing to do and would have kept with the long, proud tradition of the Marines. In addition, that Marine who had his knife taken away should be ashamed of himself. Would he allow the enemy to take his rifle? HELL NO. That mugger should not get that weapon unless he is taking it out of the Marine’s cold, dead hands.
As for the third Marine who looked on. Shame on you young man. You are duty bound to have the backs of your comrades in arms. You are obligated to defend them with your life and you failed miserably at this.
I wonder how this spokesperson would be reacting had the Marines turned over their property and been killed anyway. It is absolutely a travesty that these young men did not defend themselves and their property.
The few, the proud, the Marines. Somehow I have a hard time believing anyone in uniform would be proud of this.
If this story changes and new facts come to light I will reconsider my position but as it stands right now I am ashamed that these men and their spokesperson represent the US Marines.
Cave Canem!
Never surrender, never submit.
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Memorial Day
May 25, 2009 Political
On this day, I thought I might speak about our Armed Forces- it is a day for honoring and remembering those who have laid their lives on the line and sacrificed themselves so that we might remain free. Our armed forces have a storied history, and for any naysayers who are keeping count, there have been far fewer negative incidents than the positive and uplifting stories of bravery and compassion from our men and women.
My personal experience is not first- hand, as I missed out on being drafted in 1970 by one lottery number- I was, I had thought at the time, lucky- and perhaps I was. A person can wonder about what never was forever, and not get an answer. I was prepared to go if called, but I wasn’t happy about it. I was eighteen, and had other things on my mind at the time.
Many friends of mine went, and some didn’t return. Of those that did, they returned different. War does that- killing someone makes people think, and being scared 24/7 will do that also, because even on leave, the feeling doesn’t quite leave you, or so I have been told.
Other friends chose the National Guard, because those were your choices, join or be drafted, and as our Army Generals found out, a draft doesn’t work. People have to be of the right mindset to join, and those that do make better soldiers in the long run. I find it amusing that all through the Iraq war, one friend of mine, who had grown up at the same time as me was concerned about Bush reinstating the draft. I told him repeatedly that it wouldn’t happen, but he was worried about his son, who clearly isn’t Army material.
I have friends who went into the Navy- one still can’t tell me anything about his tours in a sub. Others went Air Force, and one was a Marine who was a LRRP for two tours- now he was scary, despite the fact that he weighed 145 pounds soaking wet. I once saw him take out three people at a pool table who were harassing him. Him I did not want for an opponent. We became fast friends, however- and a truer friend I have never had.
So the Draft Army became the Volunteer Army, and since has gone through several stages of shrinkage and growth, as politicians diddle with the Armed Forces, and, depending on the politician’s beliefs and prejudices, our Armed Forces have prospered or learned to do with less, but all the time have endured and protected us wherever they have been sent.
This is a magnificent force, one that has accomplished many positive things, and when you include the National Guard in the mix (as you must), these men and women have helped us at the cost to their lives and indeed at times, their families. They have been there to fight our battles, and they have been there to help in our disasters.
They are, indeed, our national treasure, one without whom we would be nothing.
Today, we should all feel pride, as well as humility, as we honor those who have fallen in all of our wars, as well as those who have come home to help make this country the best it can be.
Even though many of us disagree in the direction of this country, we should not disagree about the worth of the men and women in uniform, nor of their rightful place in our society.
Take a moment today and say thanks to a vet.
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Liberal Berkeley Cowards Vandalize Recruiting Station
Mar 23, 2009 Political
The libtards of Berkeley California have been fighting a Marine recruiting station for some time now. The hags of Code Pink(o) protested everyday, the city council said they were unwelcome and then did everything possible to make it easy for the antagonists to continue. To their credit, the Marines never mopped the street up with these low life scum bags.
These people are absolute cowards. They certainly act tough when there are huge numbers of them and TV cameras around but then they wait until the cover of darkness to vandalize the recruiting station. That’s right, these maggots vandalize the recruiting station at night when no one is around because they are cowards. The only difference between them and the terrorists who use cowardly acts to intimidate people is that the libtards don’t scare anyone. If you scream boo at them they wet their panties. After the most recent attack on the station some libtard reported on it and was actually happy that it happened. Here is what someone named Scarlet wrote:
At 9PM on March 18th, the eve of the 6th anniversary of the war in Iraq, a group of persons wearing masks smashed the windows and splattered red paint at the U.S. Marine Corps Recruiting Center in Berkeley, California.
The center has been the target of protests for the last 18 months, and stands as a symbol of U.S. militarism and imperialist wars. The act of property distruction stands alone as the embodyment of frustration of a people whos government does not listen to or care about them.
Police have not made any arrests but are reviewing the tape, said Sgt. Mary Kusmiss. A sledgehammer and a crowbar were found in a nearby garbage can nearby, and are being reviewing as evidence. After breaking windows and improving the Marine Corps logo at the center, the group wearing masks and dark clothing scattered in three different directions, police said.
As of the time of this posting, no one involved has been arrested. The act was easy. You and a few friends could have pulled it off any day.
NO MORE IMPERIALIST WARS!!!
NO MORE GOVERNMENT!!!
SMASH THE STATE!!!
Scarlet is happy that some maggot used a sledgehammer to, in her words (assuming Scarlet is a she) “improve the Marine Corps logo.” She seems to think this station stands as a symbol of imperialism and militarism and that the vandalism is because of the frustration caused by government not listening to the people.
For some reason these left wing retards seem to think that it is OK to go around and damage things if they don’t get what they want. Like spoiled children they throw tantrums when big daddy government does not do their bidding. They justify illegal acts and acts of violence by saying they are not being listened to.
Now we know these cowards did this at night, not because they are afraid of the police because the cops there in Berkeley are probably sympathetic to the cause, but because they have something bigger to fear. These cowards did this at night when the Marines were not there because they know the Marines will stomp the living hell out of them and keep stomping until their intestines squirt out of their anuses.
Since these libtards seem to think that it is perfectly OK to raise hell and damage things when they are not listened to perhaps the Marines should kick up a little dust because no one had listened to them when they asked to be left alone.
How about we put a platoon of Marines in Berkeley and they walk through the streets in a long formation abreast of each other and just slap the hell out of anyone they come across? They could say that the local government did not listen to them and instead pandered to the cowards thus creating an atmosphere where this kind of stuff happens. They could justify their slapping liberals around by saying that this is the frustration that occurs when government does not listen.
It would be great to see a platoon of Marines just walking through town and seeing how many of the opposition has the guts to attack them in the daylight. I say none, zero, zilch, nada because they are cowards. The Marines could just go around beating the hell out of people who look at them them the wrong way.
None of this will happen because, unlike the limp wristed, latte drinking, cowards who vandalize under cover of darkness, the Marines have integrity and discipline.
What I would like to see is for the Marines to put 3 or 4 troops in front of that building to guard it. They could pull guard duty there and just beat the living hell out of anyone who tries to vandalize.
Of course, they would never get the chance because the bed wetting liberal pansies who do this kind of stuff don’t have the testicular fortitude to do it when there is any kind of opposition.
Who knows though. The East Bay website is out of San Francisco so maybe they will send in the Pink Berets…
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Tags: Berkeley, code pinko, cowards, Marines, recruiter, san francisco, vandalism
Obama; I Need To Earn Troops’ Trust
Mar 4, 2009 Military, Political
Back during the campaign Obama was interviewed and he said that he would have to earn the troops’ trust. I wrote at that time that this would be hard for him to do. He has never supported the war, he has never supported the troops surge and to this day he refuses to admit it was a failure. In fact, when one listens to him speak, as he did at Camp Lejuene, one can’t help thinking he is taking credit for all the good stuff.
Obama said he had to earn the troops’ trust but he first might want to work on gaining their respect. Obama received a lukewarm, if that, response when he visited Lejuene. There were golf claps but the speech, as one commenter at BlackFive noted, had pauses in it where it looked like Obama stopped for applause but the troops did not respond to, what appeared to be applause, lines. People on the stage clapped and then the light applause trickled back through the place. It was not sustained. George Bush never received that kind of welcome. Here is a short video that compares the kind of reception Bush received with that The Evil One got.
John Kerry might think the troops are stupid and uneducated and that is why they are in Iraq but they know a poser when they see one. They were respectful enough of the office to lightly clap but that is all they did. For Bush the reception was warm and loud. God Bless these Marines. They are tough, wise, ready to fight and they love America. They are all the things Obama is not.
There were all these stories about troops giving more money to Obama and they believed in him. No one can really know who gave what because Obama accepted money from all over the world and there was no real accountability. He cooked the books in the campaign like he is cooking them now.
I doubt the troops gave him more money but one thing is certain, they did not give him much of a reception. They obviously don’t care for him and they don’t respect him. They respect the office and they acted professionally but it was not what anyone would call a rousing endorsement.
I wonder if he will wait a while before he invades another military post. That rebuke had to sting.
The troops want a Commander in Chief and instead got a Community Organizer in Chief.
Big Dog Salute to BlackFive. There are a couple of other good videos there as well.
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Tags: commander, community organizer, Marines, Obama, poser, respect, troops, trust
King Hussein Speaks At Camp Lejeune
Mar 1, 2009 Political
The Evil One visited Camp Lejeune to deliver a speech to Marines discussing how he intends to end the war in Iraq. He also told them what a wonderful job they had done while failing to mention that the US had achieved victory which should surprise no one since Democrats have always said that we lost the war. They have continually ignored our successes and they have clearly communicated that none of George Bush’s initiatives, such as the surge, would work. Barack Obama and “Nobody messes with Joe” Biden opposed the surge and said it would not work. Both refuse to acknowledge that it worked or to give Bush credit for the success. In Obama’s speech I never heard the word victory.
The Marines were well behaved and gave him a warm reception because they respect the office the man holds. It does not appear from the faces in the crowd that they were too happy with the man or his plans. These brave young men and women are well aware of what Obama and Biden have said about the war. They are aware of the Democrats and their assertions that we had lost the war. These Marines were respectful but they did not look too happy. They know a poser when they see one but to introduce the blind to the differences, here is a video depicting how King Hussein and his VK (Vice King) opposed the surge and how they reacted to President Bush:
My friend Wild Thing has a great post with pictures to show the differences between the way Bush as Commander in Chief was received and how Obama as Community Organizer in Chief was received. It is obvious that the men and women who put their lives on the line know who supports them and who does not.
You see, the Marines heard Obama, his lips were moving but the words coming out did not register well. I am sure they had the same trouble with one particular part as I did:
Next month will mark the sixth anniversary of the war in Iraq. By any measure, this has already been a long war. For the men and women of America’s armed forces – and for your families – this war has been one of the most extraordinary chapters of service in the history of our nation. You have endured tour after tour after tour of duty. You have known the dangers of combat and the lonely distance of loved ones. You have fought against tyranny and disorder. You have bled for your best friends and for unknown Iraqis. And you have borne an enormous burden for your fellow citizens, while extending a precious opportunity to the people of Iraq. Under tough circumstances, the men and women of the United States military have served with honor, and succeeded beyond any expectation. [emphasis mine] Clips and Comment
No King Hussein, they have not succeeded beyond any expectation. They have succeeded beyond what you and your Vice King as well as you party expected because you ALL expected them to lose and your party declared them losers. Those of us who actually support the military know they have done exactly what we expected them to do and that is win. We know what victory is and the fact that you failed to mention it is quite telling about you. I bet you knew that word when you were running for office. The men and women performed exactly as we on the right, their true supporters, expected because we expected victory all along and that is what they have given us.
You posers on the left have no clue and the military is something that you all despise. Did King Hussein really increase defense spending or did the inclusion of war items, which have been off budget, give the appearance of an increase? Democrats are calling for drastic cuts and the only ones who want increased spending are those in the pockets of defense contractors. Couple this with the NON TRANSPARENT non disclosure memo the DOD folks had to sign agreeing not to disclose budget items and we can see there is something amiss.
The military is not important to the left and they often try to find ways to rid us of as much of it as possible. Barney Fwank, the Congressional dancing queen, continually recommends cuts to military spending (a Constitutional expense) so that we can have more social programs (not a Constitutional expense).
Obama and his minions believe our military has achieved more than was expected because they only expect victory when they run for office. At all other times the left wants to surrender to our enemies.
The men and women in our military know this and this is why 80% or so support Republicans.
Those Marines were respectful but they know it takes more than a community organizer to actually win a war.
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