City Riots vs Biker Gang Shootouts

There is an article on the local CBS affiliate website that tries to draw comparisons to the way the riots in Ferguson MO and Baltimore MD have been portrayed in the media with the biker gang shootout that occurred in Waco TX.

The article discusses these events and concludes that riots that damaged property (which the author notes can be replaced) but where no one was killed received more coverage than a biker shootout where nine died. It is further noted that during the riots the police showed up in riot gear, used tear gas and made mass arrests while they were shown in their normal uniforms in Waco in what the article describes as nonchalant.

The article also points out that the riots had live media coverage whereas that did not happen in Waco.

The point seems to be that when predominantly black communities riot there is outrage and the rioters are viewed as thugs but when white bikers have a shootout there is not as much coverage and the incident is viewed as an isolated incident.

These items involve two entirely different crimes and this article only serves to further push a race narrative where one does not exist.

Yes, most of the rioters were black but the cities involved have mostly black populations. There were some white people there and they were attacked by the rioters. There is no doubt that some white folks participated in the unrest.

In Waco most of the bikers were white but there were some people of color. It was reported that there were some black and Hispanic bikers involved.

Perhaps the reason there were not cameras and live play of the gunfight is that it happened spontaneously. The police were aware that some trouble was brewing but the police do not call the media in every time there is a threat of violence. I am not sure how much media is available in Waco but the issue in Ferguson simmered for weeks giving the media plenty of time to show up and Baltimore has many major news outlets in or near the city. The media would have been present because there was unrest (read that as thugs attacking people and breaking the law) on Saturday and the riots occurred on Monday. The media had time to gather.

Since the gang shootout happened there has been word there will be some sort of retaliation. You can bet the media is there now.

As for the police. They anticipated violence in the cities and were dressed appropriately. In Waco they had information something might happen. The big difference here is that the police in Waco were involved in the shootout. They were shot at and they returned fire. They then arrested hundreds of bikers. During the riots, particularly in Baltimore, the police were continually attacked and DID NOT fight back. They were ordered to give the rioters room. Perhaps if the police in Baltimore had started attacking those who were breaking the law and arresting them in droves we would have seen pictures of police officers being nonchalant as they walked around hundreds of handcuffed protesters.

Since the police in Waco were allowed to do their jobs they had all the bikers under control and were able to be more “nonchalant” than the police in the rioting cities.

The only thing these incidents have in common is that they both involved people who were breaking the law. The idea that the rioters had a grievance so their behavior can be excused especially since no one died is ridiculous. They were breaking the law and they were destroying property. No one died but scores of police officers were injured.

The bikers felt they had a grievance as well but their actions are no more excusable than those of the rioters. The big difference is that the police responded to the violence in Waco.

And for those who think there is disparity, there is. The rioters in Baltimore who happened to get arrested complained about high bail amounts. Every biker arrested in Waco had bail set at one million dollars far above any amount reported from Baltimore.

The thugs in Waco will get what is coming to them just like the thugs in Baltimore eventually will. And yes, both groups are thugs. Despite what the author wants you to believe, the bikers were referred to that just as the rioters in Baltimore were.

When people stop trying to excuse any kind of bad behavior and start holding everyone accountable society will be better off.

And then people will have no excuse for race baiting articles…

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Cops Lives Matter Too

I am skeptical of the police. I respect them as a group of people who, for the most part, do dangerous jobs to protect people. But we have continually militarized them and they have a culture that sees them remain silent when some among them do wrong. There are far too many cases of police officers beating people and violating their civil rights.

[note]When you give police agencies items that are meant for war they will act like they are going to war.[/note]

That small group causes the good among them to be viewed skeptically. I believe all agents of the government should be viewed with a bit of skepticism but the bad actions of a small minority of cops has tarnished the good work of honorable officers.

It is also true that far too often police officers are extensions of the taxing authority of a government. They write tickets for nuisance items just to generate revenue.

But no matter how one feels about what policing has become the reality is these folks are men and women who have families. Their lives matter just as much as anyone else’s. They should not be targeted. Don’t get me wrong. I believe people have the right to resist unlawful acts by any agent of the government but I do not think police officers should be targets just because some segment of society does not like them.

Last night two officers in Ferguson MO were shot. They are expected to survive but they should not have been shot in the first place. This is not an issue where police issued some no knock raid and got shot by a scared home owner. No, these police officers were monitoring yet another protest in ferguson when some jackass shot them.

We saw all the protests and riots when people believed that Michael Brown was shot with his hands up. That turned out to be a lie and he was the aggressor. Unarmed or not he ws dangerous and Officer Wilson was well within his right to shoot him.

Will there be protests in favor of these cops? The race baiting poverty pimps are already making excuses and rationalizing the shootings.

People get up in arms when they think a cop shot someone (or their dog) unnecessarily (and their anger is justified when that turns out to be the case especially when the cop is cleared of wrong doing) but they find no issue with police officers being shot while doing their jobs.

Imagine if you will a scenario where a group of people has been arrested after a long police investigation. Say they all had tons of drugs and illegal firearms when they were arrested. The cops all testify and they think this is a slam dunk. But for some reason the jury finds the defendants not guilty and they walk on all charges.

How would people respond if the police waited for them to gather someplace and then gunned them down?

The people of Ferguson were fed a false narrative and they were led to believe they would get the verdict they wanted from the Grand Jury. When they did not they burned the place to the ground. How many of them were arrested for that?

In any event, the false narrative and all the negative statements from Barack Obama, Eric Holder, Al Sharpton and plenty of other people has resulted in this violence against these police officers.

Their lives matter too and this should not be happening. They need to catch who did this and nail him to the wall.

Here is the key. Mutual respect. Police officers need to respect the people who pay their salaries and who they work for. They need to do their jobs with honor and dignity and without regard for ones color ar any other demographic.

The people need to obey the law and they need to respect the police.

If that happens people can work together to ensure their communities are safe.

Cave canem!
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Why Waste Money For Body Cameras?

B. Hussein Obama is looking to provide federal money (read taxpayer money) to equip police departments across the nation with body cameras that are worn by police officers so that everything they do (every encounter) is recorded.

It is not the place of the federal government to be doling out our money for things that affect state and local law enforcement. If individual states or localities want these cameras then they should pay for them. Federal tax dollars do not belong paying for these things but that is an issue for another day.

For today I am wondering how Obama or anyone else thinks cameras worn by police officers would make a difference. I have no issue with police officers wearing body cameras though I fail to see what value they have.

Let me explain. The body camera would record what the officer and the person with whom that officer interacted did. It would show who did what and it would either corroborate or refute the stories of the participants. So far that all seems good and who could argue with that? Hell, if Officer Wilson had been wearing a body camera we would know exactly what happened between him and Michael Brown.

But would it have mattered?

[note]In Ferguson it would not matter. People were looking for a reason to riot and loot and cause mayhem. They would have done the same thing if Wilson had been indicted. The race pimps and the Media stoked that fire real good.[/note]

A camera in the Ferguson case might have shown Wilson to be lying but would it have resulted in an indictment? Given the evidence presented in the absence of a video I feel he should not have been indicted but I also know, based on cases where video IS available, he would likely not have been indicted even if the entire encounter had been recorded.

There are ample cases on the internet where police officers are recorded clearly violating the law and the rights of citizens. There are videos of officers shooting people (and dogs) for no reason. These police officers who are armed with batons, heavy flashlights (that can be used as a baton), Tasers, pepper spray and a firearm need only say they feared for their lives and they are deemed to have been justified in their actions even though these actions are taken against people who are UNARMED (since that seems to be a buzz word in the Brown case). I know I have said that unarmed does not mean harmless and I have seen plenty of videos where offices were perfectly justified in shooting unarmed people.

In those cases it is usually pretty clear. In those where the outrage is present it is usually obvious that the officer used excessive force. In these cases, where it is all caught in video, the officers are not indicted and are deemed to have acted appropriately and “within their training and department guidelines.”

So would a body camera make a difference?

The city of New York is having its turn at outrage over a Grand Jury decision. In this case an officer was not indicted for the death of a person who resisted arrest, was encountered by the officer and taken down. The guy ended up dying and it was all recorded. In the recording the person is taken to the ground and placed in some kind of choke hold and he is heard gasping and wheezing and saying that he can’t breathe. At what point does it become obvious the guy is in distress?

If this were a lone cop (the suspect was quite large) one might conclude that he did not let go because that could have been a ruse to attack the officer. But there are several other police officers present. All the cop on the ground has to say to his fellow officers is grab his arms guys, sir I am going to let you go so you can breathe but if you resist we will be right back where we started. With several other cops present there was no reason for this. [Please police officers save your righteous indignation and don’t waste my time telling me how tough it is on the street. Four or five armed to the teeth guys can handle a man who is having trouble breathing and who is NOT fighting. If not, turn in you badges.]

“All over America, cops are getting away with this,” added 22-year-old Demetri Green. “They’re the real gang in New York City. They’re the real gang in this county.” New York Daily News

[note]In my opinion there was no need to begin with. This man was accused of selling untaxed cigarettes. Was it OK for him to die because he was allegedly selling untaxed cigarettes? It is not like this guy committed some violent felony and his resistance was non violent. He was simply accused of selling something the state did not get a cut of.[/note]

In my opinion those who said Trayvon was shot for carrying Skillets (Skittles to the literate among us) and that Mike Brown was shot for walking in the street are idiots and ignored the facts in the case. Both of the people killed in these cases were VIOLENT. They were attacking someone. The guy in New York was not attacking anyone. He was selling an untaxed tobacco product.

The question should not be whether the officer followed procedure it should be was his response appropriate for the infraction and was the result of his actions an acceptable consequence of the person’s crime. In other words, was too much force used for a guy allegedly committing a non violent crime? Hell, they don’t treat people carrying small amounts of marijuana in New York the way they treated the victim here and he had a LEGAL product when the police killed him.

Given the video that shows the entire episode (the video came from a bystander) and given the reality that a lot of force was used for a non violent crime and given the man can be heard gasping and wheezing and saying he could not breathe and given the medical examiner ruled this a homicide a reasonable person could conclude that the officer went overboard and caused this man’s death. The Grand Jury did not see it that way and refused to indict.

It is rare for a police officer to go before the Grand Jury for these things and it is rare for any officer to be found guilty of a crime when he uses force while doing his job even if it is clear that what he did was wrong (and would be illegal if we did it). This is true even when video evidence is present.

So I ask, what good would body cameras do?

[note]It seems to me the cameras would only beneift cops. They could prove a citizen’s claim of abuse, foul language, or racial bias was untrue (as happened recently). Since clear video evidence of police wrong doing does not hold them accountable it is unlikely their own recordings would…[/note]

It will be interesting to see what happens in Ohio where it is obvious a cop murdered a child. The kid was playing with a toy gun and the police were called. When they arrive one of the Miami Vice wanna be cops shoots the kid dead seemingly before the police car comes to a stop. If this guy is found to have acted appropriately then maybe we really do need to burn the place to the ground and start over…

Related:
Obama Body Cam Request Takes a Hit

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Farrakhan; Just Another Terrorist

Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan (pronounced Fairy Con which fits) spoke at Morgan State University (a black college) in Baltimore and had some harsh words about what happened in Ferguson MO. Farrakhan said that the violence that has been taking place is justified by the “law of retaliation” which he claims exist in the Bible and the Koran (it is obvious he is quoting the Old Testament and using it to justify violence. None of those rioting were wronged by anyone). As for the
koran, the book is filled with violence so shock there…

Louie also stated that if the demands of protesters are not met (I assume he means that something be done to punish Officer Wilson) then “we’ll tear this goddamn country up.”

[Obama and the Democrats are beating you to the punch on this one Louie]

There is also a report that he said parents should teach their children to throw Molotov cocktails but I do not see it that way. He said if your babies can’t fight teach them how to throw the bottle. I think he meant the bottle they drink from.

Louis was telling the predominantly black college that whites need to die in order to get things done. He claimed that if whites die when blacks die then people will sit down and talk about it. Does he mean that hundreds of whites need to die to counter the black on black crime in Chicago that goes unnoticed by race baiters like him? If you want to talk Louie, that would be a good place to start and you don’t have to make threats you can’t carry out in the process.

Basically, Louie is a nutcase racist who blames white people for everything. He is also a mentor for Obama.

OK Louie, let’s do this dance.

You sir are nothing more than a terrorist who uses violence or the threat of violence to get what you want. You also advocate for OTHERS to go out and die for the cause while you remain safe. Ever notice that the terrorist leaders never blow themselves up for the cause? No, they only send others out to die for the cause.

Louie is no different from Osama bin Laden in this regard. Let the others die for the cause while you hide someplace.

Louie is nowhere to be found when blacks murder other blacks (the overwhelming reason blacks are murdered) but in the infrequent occurrences of a white cop killing a black person Louie is there to stir up racial strife and to tell others how they need to die for the cause.

Farrakhan is also challenged when it comes to math. You see, the black population is a small percentage of the entire population and whites outnumber blacks by huge numbers. If people are foolish enough to follow Louie and start some kind of race war there will be a lot of dead people and it will almost certainly, just because of math, mean that the population of blacks will be eliminated or severely reduced.

I am not in favor of any such thing and my personal belief is I don’t care what color a person is. I don’t look at black Americans or White Americans or any other hyphenated Americans. I look at Americans. Treat me right and I will do the same no matter what you look like.

Attack me or my family and I will end you.

I think a lot of people feel this way. It would be a mistake for people to follow Louie’s words (you can’t follow Louie because that coward will be hiding someplace condemning the white people who are fighting back).

I think people do not have to agree with the Grand Jury decision and they certainly have a right to protest PEACEFULLY. The folks burning down buildings, shooting at others and damaging property are not peaceful protesters and they are NOT justified.

They do not have a protected right to do what they are doing and if they follow Louie they will end up joining Michael Brown.

As an aside, does anyone expect Farrakhan to be peaceful? He is the leader of the Nation of ISLAM. It is not the religion of peace and Louie has made that clear.

Be careful Louie. Be very careful what you ask for because you might not like the result.

Source:
The Daily Caller [includes video]

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The Facts Don’t Matter When It Comes To Race Baiting

The facts in any case that involves race baiting never matter so long as the narrative stays on course and that narrative is always that some minority (usually a black person) has been wronged by some white person and it is all because racism is alive and well in America.

There are plenty of examples of this each and every day. Any time a black person is involved in some issue where he has been harmed or killed the race baiting poverty pimps like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson come out of the woodwork to tell us how the guy with a rap sheet as long as the Nile was a good person who was on his way to Bible study when some racist white cop (or any racist white person like a white Hispanic named Zimmerman) walked up and shot, stabbed, choked, whatever this person because of racism.

There is never an uproar when blacks kill other blacks (93% of the black murders come this way) or if a black attacks a white. No, the only outrage is the rare occasion when a black person is killed by a white person particularly a cop.

In Ferguson MO a black man described (after his death) as a gentle giant was shot and killed by a police officer after said giant robbed a store of cheap cigars (to make blunts with no doubt). The giant was told by the officer to get out of the street, an order that was ignored. About this time the call goes out about the robbery and the cop thinks this might be the guy. As the cop tries to get out of the car he is attacked by the giant who tries to take the cop’s firearm and a round discharges in the vehicle. The cop is able to get out of the car and tell the fleeing criminal to stop. The criminal turns to come after the cop who shoots him a number of times until he falls down and dies.

A witness said the giant was surrendering and had his hands up. That narrative went viral and the world was told about the racist cop who shot a gentle giant who had his hands up. That story started to fall apart but the race baiters kept it up. The big claim that they tried to impress upon us was that this black man was UNARMED as if that makes a difference.

Folks, unarmed does not me harmless. The guy was big and strong and he tried to take a cop’s gun. He was dangerous without a weapon but at the time the cop did not know if this thug was armed. We all get to say wow, he was unarmed because they did not find a weapon on him but when he was attacking the cop the cop did not know that the guy was unarmed. He knew he was attacked, the guy tried to take his gun and the guy charged him after being told to stop and get down on the ground.

All of this is not in dispute. Plenty of eyewitnesses have come forward to verify what the cop said happened and it is certain the giant was not surrendering when he was shot. In addition to eyewitnesses the coroner (several actually) has determined that the giant’s arms were not up when he was shot.

The people pushing the race narrative say that does not matter. The hands up, don’t shoot mantra to them is symbolic of the struggles that blacks, particularly black men, have had against the racist police. They now claim it does not matter if the giant had his hands up and it really does not matter that he was attacking. No, all that matters is they have an agenda to push and they must prove that this giant, the guy with a long criminal record including an arrest for murder, was a good person who fell victim to a racist white cop.

This is the problem with a victim society. When government puts people on a plantation and forces them to live as slaves to government while telling them all the bad things happening to them are because they are victims of racism then these folks begin to believe they are victims. No amount of logic and no evidence whatsoever is enough to get these folks to see the light.

So as victims they riot and burn their town to the ground. And since they are victims of everything they will most certainly demand that the people who were victims (real victims) of their rioting rebuild so they have places to shop and a town once again. It takes nerve but victims feel entitled to everything in society so these folks feel entitled to burn the place down and then they feel entitled to have it rebuild for them.

Screw them. Bulldoze the entire place and make them live without. Force them to live with what they caused until THEY can afford to rebuild the place they destroyed.

Then again, that might be asking a bit too much.

Remember, to these folks the facts do not matter…

As an aside, Al Sharpton should be busy working to pay off the millions he owes in taxes instead of inciting violence.

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