DAR
Are you really having this much trouble distinguishing the difference between:

a) party brand name (demo v. repub)

b) political stance (liberal v. conservative)

There is a difference! Ignore the party label. It’s just a temporary brand name. It’s irrelevant to these matters. Can you think outside the “team” for a moment? It’s the political stance that matters with regard to these claims like slavery and civil rights and the undeniable fact that you couldn’t possibly be oblivious to is that conservatives overwhelming fought against civil rights while liberals, progressives, worked for the change.

Good grief.

As I quoted above:

“…Ronald Walters , a political science professor emeritus at the University of Maryland , said… today’s political parties are very different than they were during the 19th century slavery debates, as well as the civil rights battles of the 1950s and 1960s.

The Democratic Party of the 1800s was considered the party of landowners who owned slaves, while the GOP was viewed as a more radical party, Walters said, because of its opposition to slavery.

“And 21st century Republicans today are like Southern Democrats of the past,” Walters said.” Link

They did a flip see…

DAR
Nope, my astute analysis is that racism was ubiquitous within society and when it came time to change this, conservatives tried to CONSERVE the past (as they like to do) and dragged their heels to fight this change while progressives tried to PROGRESS out of that distasteful situation.

Pretty straightforward really.

For a present day example you can observe how we have the exact same thing today with conservatives and gay rights, etc. They even use some of the same idiotic arguments.

And they will lose. Again.

I have a pamphlet I picked up in a church. It’s entitled “Pants and the Christian Woman.” It argues how society will go to hell in a hand basket if women are allowed to wear pants.

That’s… conservatism.

D.
——————
William F. Buckley in his book “Up from Liberalism:”

“Conservatism is the tacit acknowledgment that all that is finally important in human experience is behind us; that the crucial explorations have been undertaken, and that it is given to man to know what are the great truths that emerged from them. Whatever is to come cannot outweigh the importance to man of what has gone before.”

The business of conservatives is, in other words, to cling tightly to the past, and although such a stance can be admirable, a stale and musty doctrine is of little use at a time when the nation needs not to fear the future but to seek out ways to improve it.”
–George McGovern, The Case for Liberalism

DAR
A handful no doubt. But the rest are yours.

Bigd: You make a claim that all the racists left the Democrats and joined the Republicans and this is not true.>>

DAR
I didn’t say all, I said “a large constituency.” And that’s true. And this fact refutes the thrust of your entire post, especially the heading.

Bigd: And tell me how the KKK member in Congress is a Democrat.>>

DAR
That’s such a dumb line. As I told Blake in August when he tried it:

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BLK: “Didn’t Sen, Byrd used to be a Grand Wizard in the KKK?”>>

DAR
Actually, he was “Exalted Cyclops.” Can’t say conservatives didn’t have a sense of humor!

As his wiki blurb states:

“A lifelong Democrat, Byrd did not leave the party as its views shifted from social conservatism to social liberalism.”

He also said; “I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times… and I don’t mind apologizing over and over again. I can’t erase what happened.”

Lester Maddox and George Wallace were, in their day, Demo’s. Today they would be, of course, Republicans. Sort of like David Duke.
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Bigd: I am saying there is no institutionalized racism in the Republican party>>

DAR
Okay. Could be. I do think a large percentage, perhaps even a majority of republicans do have their heart in the right place on this and would like to get past the history. I do try to avoid the blanket statements that attribute racism to republicans. I like to give them the benefit of the doubt. Hell, I think we’re all a little bit racist sometimes. But we can’t be changing the history of it’s connection to conservatism.

D.

Liberals did.

Liberals believe in murdering unborn children, holding blacks hostage by holding them down and in expanded government.

If you want the government to run your life go back to Canada.

You are not only wrong, you are a moron. Now being a moron is part of the liberal “progressive” core.

DAR
Over the objection of Conservatives.

BLK: it was Republicans who rammed through Civil Rights->>

DAR
Over the objection of Conservatives.

Party affiliations change like a logo and are irrelevant. The anti-intellectual, anti-social, anti-progressive, anti-equality, anti-civil rights, anti-equal rights, anti-gay, anti-woman core of conservatism stays the same. That is after all what conservatives do best isn’t it?

Stay the same. For better or worse.

D.

D.

And some of them are Democrats.

I am not denying anything. You make a claim that all the racists left the Democrats and joined the Republicans and this is not true.

It is simple. And tell me how the KKK member in Congress is a Democrat.

The only thing that is true is that Democrats have been able to portray Republicans as racists but the NBRA does not agree with the assessment.

There are racists in both parties and of all colors (let’s not forget that important fact) but I am saying there is no institutionalized racism in the Republican party and you have yet to show otherwise.

DAR never said all rednecks were racist by the way. But I agree that the South has many “rabid, ridiculous, redneck, racist, righteous, retards.” But of course it’s my home and I love the good and the bad and I’m moving back there next year to bring a little liberalism back to the bible belt.

However, the reality is that the people of the south voted in their ECONOMIC interests, not their cultural ones.

The point is, the Southern Strategy was not a one trick pony designed to increase racism and it did not fill the Republican party with the racist rednecks you and Darrel like to imagine. It was a multi faceted plan used by politicians from both parties to play on sympathies or fears of particular populations.

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