Comments on: Remember, They Support the Troops http://www.onebigdog.net/remember-they-support-the-troops/ "Let that be a lesson to you, boys and girls. Don't ever argue with the Big Dog because the Big Dog is always right" Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:12:07 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Billy Joe http://www.onebigdog.net/remember-they-support-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-19074 Billy Joe Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:34:53 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/2007/06/15/remember-they-support-the-troops/#comment-19074 Well, we know that we use far more contractors in this war than any previous war and their deaths are not included in the totals of US troops lost. Medical advances mean that troops who would have died in the past are now saved, minus limbs, faces, etc. At any rate, the violence is escalating, not declining, so realistically, we'll continue to lose more troops, as seems to be happening since the surge started. When compared to Viet Nam, we're actually losing more troops now than we lost then at similar points in the war (in the 4th year). And how many Iraqis have been killed by us and in the civil war? Well, we don't know because the US gov't isn't even trying to count. Look, Saddam was no Hitler and Iraq is no WWII. You can't really compare the two because they are different types of war. I'm not quite sure I understand your 2nd paragraph, but if I can take a stab, most of the people we're fighting in Iraq are Iraqis. foreign fighters are a fairly insignificant percentage of people we're fighting in Iraq. As difficult as it may be to acknowledge, I still think the most accurate analogy is Viet Nam. Well, we know that we use far more contractors in this war than any previous war and their deaths are not included in the totals of US troops lost. Medical advances mean that troops who would have died in the past are now saved, minus limbs, faces, etc. At any rate, the violence is escalating, not declining, so realistically, we’ll continue to lose more troops, as seems to be happening since the surge started. When compared to Viet Nam, we’re actually losing more troops now than we lost then at similar points in the war (in the 4th year). And how many Iraqis have been killed by us and in the civil war? Well, we don’t know because the US gov’t isn’t even trying to count.

Look, Saddam was no Hitler and Iraq is no WWII. You can’t really compare the two because they are different types of war.

I’m not quite sure I understand your 2nd paragraph, but if I can take a stab, most of the people we’re fighting in Iraq are Iraqis. foreign fighters are a fairly insignificant percentage of people we’re fighting in Iraq.

As difficult as it may be to acknowledge, I still think the most accurate analogy is Viet Nam.

]]> By: Big Dog http://www.onebigdog.net/remember-they-support-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-19062 Big Dog Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:07:31 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/2007/06/15/remember-they-support-the-troops/#comment-19062 Contrary to what people think, we did not align ourselves with bin Laden. If we want analogies, none are accurate because CN, Germany and Japan were all vountries and these guys are from all over with no countries. The NVA used guerrilla warfare but were Vietnamese (and their allies). We lost how many lives in WWII? More on D Day than in this entire war. Contrary to what people think, we did not align ourselves with bin Laden.

If we want analogies, none are accurate because CN, Germany and Japan were all vountries and these guys are from all over with no countries. The NVA used guerrilla warfare but were Vietnamese (and their allies).

We lost how many lives in WWII? More on D Day than in this entire war.

]]> By: Billy Joe http://www.onebigdog.net/remember-they-support-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-19044 Billy Joe Wed, 20 Jun 2007 03:36:29 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/2007/06/15/remember-they-support-the-troops/#comment-19044 Germany and Japan are false analogies. Both countries actually stopped fighting us when the wars ended. A more accurate analogy is, unfortunately, Viet Nam. Iraq has a government that would have been toppled already had the US not been propping it up (like when we were in Vietnam), we're stuck fighting insurgents, we're even resurrecting the idea of strategic hamlets in the form of "gated" communities - using "Bremer" blast walls - to try to keep the different groups in Iraq separate from each other. I'll try to find some info. about the financial cost, but I think we have actually spent more in Iraq than we have in WWII, when adjusted for inflation. And there is no sign of a let up. so just to see if I get your logic... if bin Laden promises to, say, destabilize the Iranian government, would that be OK, too? I'm trying to figure out when it's OK to align ourselves with "terrorists" who have been killing us and when it's not. Germany and Japan are false analogies. Both countries actually stopped fighting us when the wars ended. A more accurate analogy is, unfortunately, Viet Nam. Iraq has a government that would have been toppled already had the US not been propping it up (like when we were in Vietnam), we’re stuck fighting insurgents, we’re even resurrecting the idea of strategic hamlets in the form of “gated” communities – using “Bremer” blast walls – to try to keep the different groups in Iraq separate from each other.

I’ll try to find some info. about the financial cost, but I think we have actually spent more in Iraq than we have in WWII, when adjusted for inflation. And there is no sign of a let up.

so just to see if I get your logic… if bin Laden promises to, say, destabilize the Iranian government, would that be OK, too? I’m trying to figure out when it’s OK to align ourselves with “terrorists” who have been killing us and when it’s not.

]]> By: Big Dog http://www.onebigdog.net/remember-they-support-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-19020 Big Dog Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:14:36 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/2007/06/15/remember-they-support-the-troops/#comment-19020 How much money did we spend to defeat Japan and Germany? We have become allies with them and we have spent much more money rebuilding them and becoming allies. I am not sure i would trust these folks but if we can change their hearts and souls to fight against terror and for democracy then maybe we should try. I am not trusting of any of them and this could end badly but we did the same with the others who we have beaten in battle and now we live in peace with them. How much money did we spend to defeat Japan and Germany? We have become allies with them and we have spent much more money rebuilding them and becoming allies. I am not sure i would trust these folks but if we can change their hearts and souls to fight against terror and for democracy then maybe we should try.

I am not trusting of any of them and this could end badly but we did the same with the others who we have beaten in battle and now we live in peace with them.

]]> By: Billy Joe http://www.onebigdog.net/remember-they-support-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-19015 Billy Joe Tue, 19 Jun 2007 03:14:06 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/2007/06/15/remember-they-support-the-troops/#comment-19015 BD, I'll check the link. I see it's from the highly-respected NewsMax site, but I'll check it out. Ogre, Kender and eveyrone else, drop by my blog. I have responded to the Reid "controversy". Feel free to leave comments. What I'm understanding so far is if McCain says a commander is incompetent or Smith (R-OR) says they're "criminal", no one cares but if Reid says it, it's politicization. Are there any circumstances under which a Democrat can criticize a government official, even if he's in the military? Or should we just shut our mouth and let the Commander in Chief keep arming Saddamists, as they recently started doing, after spening $1/2 trillion to defeat the same people? Please drop by and leave comments: http://breakingdimbulbs.blogspot.com I'll attempt to take you all on, without profanity. BD,

I’ll check the link. I see it’s from the highly-respected NewsMax site, but I’ll check it out.

Ogre, Kender and eveyrone else, drop by my blog. I have responded to the Reid “controversy”. Feel free to leave comments. What I’m understanding so far is if McCain says a commander is incompetent or Smith (R-OR) says they’re “criminal”, no one cares but if Reid says it, it’s politicization.

Are there any circ**stances under which a Democrat can criticize a government official, even if he’s in the military? Or should we just shut our mouth and let the Commander in Chief keep arming Saddamists, as they recently started doing, after spening $1/2 trillion to defeat the same people?

Please drop by and leave comments:

http://breakingdimbulbs.blogspot.com

I’ll attempt to take you all on, without profanity.

]]> By: The Thunder Run http://www.onebigdog.net/remember-they-support-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-19012 The Thunder Run Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:31:32 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/2007/06/15/remember-they-support-the-troops/#comment-19012 <strong>Web Reconnaissance 06/18/2007...</strong> A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention.... Web Reconnaissance 06/18/2007…

A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention….

]]> By: Big Dog http://www.onebigdog.net/remember-they-support-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-19011 Big Dog Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:29:49 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/2007/06/15/remember-they-support-the-troops/#comment-19011 I don't know where troll gets his numbers or info (Howard Dean I suppose) but <a href="http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/6/17/200944.shtml?s=al&promo_code=35A4-1">here</a> is how ILLEGALS cost us in SS. I don’t know where troll gets his numbers or info (Howard Dean I suppose) but here is how ILLEGALS cost us in SS.

]]> By: Ogre http://www.onebigdog.net/remember-they-support-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-19010 Ogre Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:19:16 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/2007/06/15/remember-they-support-the-troops/#comment-19010 Nice way to prove you're a troll, Billy Joe. Way to completely change the topic in the comments. Instead of talking about the fact that Reid is a scumbag and doing everything he can to undermine ANY effort of the US Military, simply so he can beat Bush, you talk about Social Security Numbers. Reid is a scumbag, plain and simple. You can complain about your buddy McCain all you like, but this is clear and obvious political manuverings to destroy and undermine the military, nothing more. This isn't the commander in chief saying that he wants to replace a general, it's the Democrats saying they're going to embarass Bush, no matter the cost in human lives. Nice way to prove you’re a troll, Billy Joe. Way to completely change the topic in the comments. Instead of talking about the fact that Reid is a sc**bag and doing everything he can to undermine ANY effort of the US Military, simply so he can beat Bush, you talk about Social Security Numbers.

Reid is a sc**bag, plain and simple. You can complain about your buddy McCain all you like, but this is clear and obvious political manuverings to destroy and undermine the military, nothing more. This isn’t the commander in chief saying that he wants to replace a general, it’s the Democrats saying they’re going to embarass Bush, no matter the cost in human lives.

]]> By: Rosemary http://www.onebigdog.net/remember-they-support-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-19008 Rosemary Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:52:18 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/2007/06/15/remember-they-support-the-troops/#comment-19008 I do not like them. No. I do not like them at all. This is very low. I dare not say they couldn't go any lower, because I would be a fool to believe so. Great article, chief. Congrats on your 100,000! I do not like them. No. I do not like them at all. This is very low. I dare not say they couldn’t go any lower, because I would be a fool to believe so. Great article, chief. Congrats on your 100,000!

]]> By: Billy Joe http://www.onebigdog.net/remember-they-support-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-19007 Billy Joe Mon, 18 Jun 2007 03:16:30 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/2007/06/15/remember-they-support-the-troops/#comment-19007 I still don't understand how a person using a social security number that isn't theirs plans to claim the benefits and don't think it's well explained by either of you. AS the article states, it's basically found money as far as the US gov't is concerned - the "illegals" won't be getting it back. I'll check the other link you posted. I'll freely admit, there may very well be problems with other social services (though I'd be more comfortable actually investigating it) but Social Security is not one of them. FWIW, Americans living overseas can often draw on social security payments in the US that they made in their hosting country thru something called Totalization agreements. I think that's what you referring to and frankly, I don't see a problem with it. We do it with European countries and some Asian countries and it benefits Americans who had to pay into those systems just as it benefits foreigners who worked in America and had to pay into the US system even though they would probably have never received US social security payments otherwise. Kender, Drop by my blog. You get a mention plus there is a brand-spanking new post about treason. Feel free to drop by and disabuse me of my notion of the law. I still don’t understand how a person using a social security number that isn’t theirs plans to claim the benefits and don’t think it’s well explained by either of you. AS the article states, it’s basically found money as far as the US gov’t is concerned – the “illegals” won’t be getting it back. I’ll check the other link you posted. I’ll freely admit, there may very well be problems with other social services (though I’d be more comfortable actually investigating it) but Social Security is not one of them.

FWIW, Americans living overseas can often draw on social security payments in the US that they made in their hosting country thru something called Totalization agreements. I think that’s what you referring to and frankly, I don’t see a problem with it. We do it with European countries and some Asian countries and it benefits Americans who had to pay into those systems just as it benefits foreigners who worked in America and had to pay into the US system even though they would probably have never received US social security payments otherwise.

Kender,

Drop by my blog. You get a mention plus there is a brand-spanking new post about treason. Feel free to drop by and disabuse me of my notion of the law.

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