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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.onebigdog.net/patrick-kennedy-warns-of-violence/comment-page-1/#comment-141167</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 03:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carter had nothing to do with them coming home.  They were released right after Reagan took the oath of office because Iraq knew he would not be wimpy.

No, no one said that a rescue attempt should not be made and he could not have predicted the sandstorm.  The folks in the military said this was not the way to do it and that there would be problems with this kind of mission.  There were other options on the table and he wanted this one against the advice of the people who know these things.

Eight people is statistically insignificant.  However, they died due to incompetence of their CINC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carter had nothing to do with them coming home.  They were released right after Reagan took the oath of office because Iraq knew he would not be wimpy.</p>
<p>No, no one said that a rescue attempt should not be made and he could not have predicted the sandstorm.  The folks in the military said this was not the way to do it and that there would be problems with this kind of mission.  There were other options on the table and he wanted this one against the advice of the people who know these things.</p>
<p>Eight people is statistically insignificant.  However, they died due to incompetence of their CINC.</p>
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		<title>By: Darrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bigd: Who is the worst president is an arguable point since we all use different measures.&gt;&gt;

DAR
  Of course, but the measurement of economic matters are pretty straight forward and objective.

Bigd: &quot;is an anti Semite&quot;&gt;&gt;

DAR
  He&#039;s worked as hard, and accomplished as much for Israel, as anyone living. But he also tells the truth, which is that sometimes Israel screws up and oppresses people.

Bigd:&quot; caused huge problems with inflation..?

DAR
  While Carter comes in 10th for inflation, Nixon came in 9th.

Bigd: &quot;rescue attempt in Iran agaisnt the advice of those who knew better...&gt;&gt;

DAR
  As if he didn&#039;t have advice to do it, and wouldn&#039;t have been criticized even more if he hadn&#039;t tried.

Bigd: and got a lot of service people killed.&gt;&gt;

DAR
  Actually, eight. Just yesterday you said 45,000 dead Americans was &quot;statistically insignificant.&quot;

Should we blame him for the sand storm too?

&quot;An unexpected sandstorm of the kind known as a haboob contributed to the loss of three of the eight RH-53D helicopters....&quot;

Bigd: &quot;his wimpiness in the Iran hostage crisis is of epic proportions.&quot;&gt;&gt;

DAR
  Wimpiness which in the end resulted in every single one of them coming home safe. For which they are grateful (I watched them thanking him the other day in a documentary). There were worse possible outcomes than this.

D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bigd: Who is the worst president is an arguable point since we all use different measures.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>DAR<br />
  Of course, but the measurement of economic matters are pretty straight forward and objective.</p>
<p>Bigd: &#8220;is an anti Semite&#8221;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>DAR<br />
  He&#8217;s worked as hard, and accomplished as much for Israel, as anyone living. But he also tells the truth, which is that sometimes Israel screws up and oppresses people.</p>
<p>Bigd:&#8221; caused huge problems with inflation..?</p>
<p>DAR<br />
  While Carter comes in 10th for inflation, Nixon came in 9th.</p>
<p>Bigd: &#8220;rescue attempt in Iran agaisnt the advice of those who knew better&#8230;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>DAR<br />
  As if he didn&#8217;t have advice to do it, and wouldn&#8217;t have been criticized even more if he hadn&#8217;t tried.</p>
<p>Bigd: and got a lot of service people killed.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>DAR<br />
  Actually, eight. Just yesterday you said 45,000 dead Americans was &#8220;statistically insignificant.&#8221;</p>
<p>Should we blame him for the sand storm too?</p>
<p>&#8220;An unexpected sandstorm of the kind known as a haboob contributed to the loss of three of the eight RH-53D helicopters&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bigd: &#8220;his wimpiness in the Iran hostage crisis is of epic proportions.&#8221;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>DAR<br />
  Wimpiness which in the end resulted in every single one of them coming home safe. For which they are grateful (I watched them thanking him the other day in a documentary). There were worse possible outcomes than this.</p>
<p>D.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.onebigdog.net/patrick-kennedy-warns-of-violence/comment-page-1/#comment-141102</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In an assessment of all presidents the ones on this list are not even mentioned though many of the people surveyed expected GWB to make the cut in the future.  However, there are a number of worst president polls and the lists are different.

Who is the worst president is an arguable point since we all use different measures.  Carter has some honorable traits.  He went to the Naval Academy and served for about 7 years.  He has also been married to the same woman for over 60 years.  But, he was a bigot and racist in his early career and is an anti Semite.  He had no idea how to run the country, caused huge problems with inflation and the monetary system.  Went ahead with the rescue attempt in Iran agaisnt the advice of those who knew better and got a lot of service people killed.  He decreased morale in the military and his wimpiness in the Iran hostage crisis is of epic proportions.

However, given that I have not looked at all other presidents I will say that he is the worst to have served in my lifetime and one of the worst in history, IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an assessment of all presidents the ones on this list are not even mentioned though many of the people surveyed expected GWB to make the cut in the future.  However, there are a number of worst president polls and the lists are different.</p>
<p>Who is the worst president is an arguable point since we all use different measures.  Carter has some honorable traits.  He went to the Naval Academy and served for about 7 years.  He has also been married to the same woman for over 60 years.  But, he was a bigot and racist in his early career and is an anti Semite.  He had no idea how to run the country, caused huge problems with inflation and the monetary system.  Went ahead with the rescue attempt in Iran agaisnt the advice of those who knew better and got a lot of service people killed.  He decreased morale in the military and his wimpiness in the Iran hostage crisis is of epic proportions.</p>
<p>However, given that I have not looked at all other presidents I will say that he is the worst to have served in my lifetime and one of the worst in history, IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your last quote could NOT be about Carter- not even close-of course you were still in Canada at the time, and I am sure, compared to Canada, even Carter might have looked good- it was an illusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your last quote could NOT be about Carter- not even close-of course you were still in Canada at the time, and I am sure, compared to Canada, even Carter might have looked good- it was an illusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who I described was....you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who I described was&#8230;.you.</p>
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		<title>By: Darrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bigd: There are plenty of items we could use to measure [presidents]&gt;&gt;

DAR
  Obviously. But these are normal objective measurements of presidential success. You don&#039;t like the results for emotional reasons. 

Bigd: &quot;Carter was a failure with high inflation&quot;

DAR
  As of course accounted for in this chart. He came in tenth in that category.

Here is another examination:

&quot;Presidential rankings according to 65 historians and professional observers of the presidency surveyed by the cable channel C-SPAN. Participants ranked each president by 10 leadership attributes.&quot;

http://www.c-span.org/presidentialsurvey/Overall-Ranking.aspx

Carter comes in 25th out of all presidents.

You bias against him is not based on reason but rather emotion.

D.
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&quot;American Gross Domestic Product has grown nearly three times as fast under Democrats as Republicans. Since 1930, the annual mean growth in real GDP under Republican Presidents has been 1.8 percent; under Democrats, 5.1 percent.&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://hnn.us/articles/8301.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;George Mason’s University, History News Network&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bigd: There are plenty of items we could use to measure [presidents]&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>DAR<br />
  Obviously. But these are normal objective measurements of presidential success. You don&#8217;t like the results for emotional reasons. </p>
<p>Bigd: &#8220;Carter was a failure with high inflation&#8221;</p>
<p>DAR<br />
  As of course accounted for in this chart. He came in tenth in that category.</p>
<p>Here is another examination:</p>
<p>&#8220;Presidential rankings according to 65 historians and professional observers of the presidency surveyed by the cable channel C-SPAN. Participants ranked each president by 10 leadership attributes.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.c-span.org/presidentialsurvey/Overall-Ranking.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.c-span.org/presidentialsurvey/Overall-Ranking.aspx</a></p>
<p>Carter comes in 25th out of all presidents.</p>
<p>You bias against him is not based on reason but rather emotion.</p>
<p>D.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
&#8220;American Gross Domestic Product has grown nearly three times as fast under Democrats as Republicans. Since 1930, the annual mean growth in real GDP under Republican Presidents has been 1.8 percent; under Democrats, 5.1 percent.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://hnn.us/articles/8301.html" rel="nofollow">George Mason’s University, History News Network</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are not the way WE measure president, those are the way the report measured them.  Carter was a failure with high inflation and a terrible economy.

There are plenty of items we could use to measure people and they are not restricted to these.  You like them because they support what you believe but that does not make them the final say, especially coming from Forbes which, last time I checked, was not the arbiter on presidential rankings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are not the way WE measure president, those are the way the report measured them.  Carter was a failure with high inflation and a terrible economy.</p>
<p>There are plenty of items we could use to measure people and they are not restricted to these.  You like them because they support what you believe but that does not make them the final say, especially coming from Forbes which, last time I checked, was not the arbiter on presidential rankings.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Paddy still doing drugs and running into the Capitol steps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Paddy still doing drugs and running into the Capitol steps?</p>
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		<title>By: Darrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[You used this graph before and I “roasted” it then.]

DAR
  Actually you didn&#039;t. Perhaps you forgot. It uses standard objective measurements of what we judge presidents and prosperity by:

GDP Rank
Real Disposable Personal Income Rank
Employment Rank
Unemployment Rank
Inflation Rank
Deficit Reduction Rank

 If you don&#039;t like these, give me some others. You don&#039;t like these because, well, no reasons really, you just don&#039;t like the result.

 Every indicator under Clinton improved, and nearly every indicator under Bush, became worse. But that&#039;s cherry picking the best against the very worst.

Aside from your emotional non-rational feelings, Carter&#039;s performance was in the middle, and he beats all of your republicans except two (out of six).

That&#039;s just the way it is.

D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[You used this graph before and I “roasted” it then.]</p>
<p>DAR<br />
  Actually you didn&#8217;t. Perhaps you forgot. It uses standard objective measurements of what we judge presidents and prosperity by:</p>
<p>GDP Rank<br />
Real Disposable Personal Income Rank<br />
Employment Rank<br />
Unemployment Rank<br />
Inflation Rank<br />
Deficit Reduction Rank</p>
<p> If you don&#8217;t like these, give me some others. You don&#8217;t like these because, well, no reasons really, you just don&#8217;t like the result.</p>
<p> Every indicator under Clinton improved, and nearly every indicator under Bush, became worse. But that&#8217;s cherry picking the best against the very worst.</p>
<p>Aside from your emotional non-rational feelings, Carter&#8217;s performance was in the middle, and he beats all of your republicans except two (out of six).</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just the way it is.</p>
<p>D.</p>
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		<title>By: Darrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BLK: &quot;horribly, insane liberal screeds that twist the facts into something that doesn’t even remotely resemble common sense.&quot;&gt;&gt;

DAR
  This is Blake describing that nest of lefties I cited over at... &quot;Forbes.&quot;

  It&#039;s not possible to make fun of this, so I won&#039;t.

D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BLK: &#8220;horribly, insane liberal screeds that twist the facts into something that doesn’t even remotely resemble common sense.&#8221;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>DAR<br />
  This is Blake describing that nest of lefties I cited over at&#8230; &#8220;Forbes.&#8221;</p>
<p>  It&#8217;s not possible to make fun of this, so I won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>D.</p>
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