Comments on: Out of the Frying Pan, Into the Friar http://www.onebigdog.net/out-of-the-frying-pan-into-the-friar/ "Let that be a lesson to you, boys and girls. Don't ever argue with the Big Dog because the Big Dog is always right" Tue, 14 Feb 2012 05:27:03 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Big Dog http://www.onebigdog.net/out-of-the-frying-pan-into-the-friar/comment-page-1/#comment-115121 Big Dog Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:29:12 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/out-of-the-fryng-pan-into-the-friar/#comment-115121 Meatbrain asks where is the evidence imbecile From the article: <em>According to Sharpton, Obama protested and asked for his public support. "'No, no, no. I want you to endorse,'" Sharpton recalled Obama saying.</em> There is the evidence. Now who is the imbecile here? Meatbrain asks where is the evidence imbecile

From the article:
According to Sharpton, Obama protested and asked for his public support. “‘No, no, no. I want you to endorse,’” Sharpton recalled Obama saying.

There is the evidence. Now who is the imbecile here?

]]> By: Schatzee http://www.onebigdog.net/out-of-the-frying-pan-into-the-friar/comment-page-1/#comment-115102 Schatzee Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:20:10 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/out-of-the-fryng-pan-into-the-friar/#comment-115102 Really good points, Jo. I completely forgot about Imus and that whole mess. I was totally offended by what the Reverend Wrong had to say and how he blamed everyone but his own community for any shortfalls he perceives. I was even more disheartened to hear Obama's speech that just puts the same rhetoric in another package. If a white person - any white person - had used such volatile speech, this would not be an issue, that person would be shunned and labeled a racist and no one would make excuses for their behavior. To think that a person who wants to rule this country and our lives has been indoctrinated with such horrid beliefs scares the hell out of me. Really good points, Jo. I completely forgot about Imus and that whole mess. I was totally offended by what the Reverend Wrong had to say and how he blamed everyone but his own community for any shortfalls he perceives. I was even more disheartened to hear Obama’s speech that just puts the same rhetoric in another package.

If a white person – any white person – had used such volatile speech, this would not be an issue, that person would be shunned and labeled a racist and no one would make excuses for their behavior. To think that a person who wants to rule this country and our lives has been indoctrinated with such horrid beliefs scares the hell out of me.

]]> By: Jo http://www.onebigdog.net/out-of-the-frying-pan-into-the-friar/comment-page-1/#comment-115080 Jo Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:03:18 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/out-of-the-fryng-pan-into-the-friar/#comment-115080 Phil -- your comment has nothing to do with Obama ... Obama was the first to demand Imus be removed for "just words", yet his mentor (and I suspect his words) are more important to him than his blood. Me thinks Obama is embarassed that he is half white -- kina like the embarassment Hitler had with his Jewish blood. <em>Jo's last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/joscafe/vZji/~3/254819894/' rel="nofollow">Got Your Stain?</a></em> Phil — your comment has nothing to do with Obama …

Obama was the first to demand Imus be removed for “just words”, yet his mentor (and I suspect his words) are more important to him than his blood. Me thinks Obama is embarassed that he is half white — kina like the embarassment Hitler had with his Jewish blood.

Jo’s last blog post..Got Your Stain?

]]> By: phil http://www.onebigdog.net/out-of-the-frying-pan-into-the-friar/comment-page-1/#comment-115070 phil Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:30:15 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/out-of-the-fryng-pan-into-the-friar/#comment-115070 • John McCain may not know the difference between a Sunni and a Shi’ite but rest assured that the people in Iraq know, the people in Iran know and Al Qaeda knows. You can also bet that the cynics in the White House and the Pentagon who are planning and executing our strategy in the region know as well. Iraq is Shi’ite dominated. The Maliki government in Iraq is Shi’ite dominated, thus the close connections between Al Maliki and Iran as witnessed during the congenial meetings recently between Al Maliki and Ahmadinejad of Iran. As Joe Lieberman whispered to McCain this week when McCain failed to understand that Iran was Shi’ite dominated and Al Qaeda is Sunni dominated, there is no love lost between Shi’ite Iran and Sunni Al Qaeda. So who is the US now arming in an effort to bring stability to Iraq? The Sunnis, the party of Al Qaeda. That’s right, we’re arming the guys affiliated with Al Qaeda in an effort to counter the growing influence of Iran in Iraq’s Shi’ite led government. And at a cost of 4000 lives and $12 billion a month, you are paying for the whole sorry thing! As reported today by Selig S. Harrison, director of the Asia program at the Center for International Policy: “Until now, I was told, Iran has been actively helping the United States to stabilize Iraq during the “surge” by reducing its weapons inputs to Shi’ite militias, including the Mahdi Army of Moqtada al-Sadr, who has ordered a cease-fire under Iranian pressure. But the message was clear: Unless Petraeus drastically cuts back the Sunni militias, Tehran will unleash the Shi’ite militias against US forces again and step up help to Maliki’s intelligence service, the Ministry of National Security. The United States has created a rival agency under Sunni control, the National Intelligence Service. “The tensions building between the Maliki government and the Bush administration over Iran’s role in Iraq were underlined recently when Maliki, with visiting President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran at his side, said that Iran “has been very helpful in bringing back security and stability to Iraq.” Two days later, Lieutenant General Ray Odierno, the retiring deputy commander of US forces in Iraq, criticized Iran for continuing to “train surrogates, fund surrogates, and supply weapons to them.” “The burgeoning US-sponsored Sunni militias so far number some 90,000 US-equipped fighters who are each paid $300 a month. This is euphemistically called the “Sunni Awakening.” The militias pose a growing challenge to the dominance of Maliki’s predominantly Shi’ite army, with its authorized strength of 186,000. Abdul Aziz al-Hakim, the key Shi’ite leader backing Maliki, has repeatedly complained that “weapons should be in the hands of the government only, and the government alone should decide who gets them. The alternative will be perpetual civil war.” “Iran’s former deputy foreign minister, Mahmoud Vaezi, told me that arming the Sunnis “suggests to us that the US is deliberately seeking to keep them strong enough to undermine al-Maliki and contain our influence. It will be impossible for us to cooperate in stabilizing Iraq if this goes on. If you shift power to the Sunnis, then some Shia groups will say, ‘If we can get more power through terrorist tactics, why not?’ ” “President Bush attempts to justify an indefinite US military occupation of Iraq as a counter to Iranian influence. But the reality is that Iran will have dominant influence in Iraq whether or not a stable government emerges in Baghdad and whether or not US forces remain. History and ethnic arithmetic make this the inescapable legacy of the US invasion. “Shi’ites make up 62 percent of the Iraq population. Yet for five centuries, the Ottoman and British invaders who preceded Saddam Hussein, using classic divide-and-rule tactics, installed successive Sunni minority governments to contain the Shi’ite majority. By destroying the Sunni-dominated Hussein regime, Bush gave the Iraqi Shi’ites an unprecedented opportunity to rule that they are now determined to exploit.” So we have switched from our strategy of arming both sides in the Iraq civil war, now we are backing the guys nominally aligned with Al Qaeda so we can counter Iran’s growing influence in Iraq. Despite the wonderful rhetoric from the impotent Bush yesterday, this is what our Iraq strategy has wrought, and what our boys are dying for. Instead of defending ourselves from Al Qaeda we have painted ourselves into a corner where we need to fund people aligned with Al Qaeda, the guys who attacked us on 9/11, in order to counter the influence of Iran in the region. And you guys say we’re winning? • John McCain may not know the difference between a Sunni and a Shi’ite but rest assured that the people in Iraq know, the people in Iran know and Al Qaeda knows. You can also bet that the cynics in the White House and the Pentagon who are planning and executing our strategy in the region know as well.
Iraq is Shi’ite dominated. The Maliki government in Iraq is Shi’ite dominated, thus the close connections between Al Maliki and Iran as witnessed during the congenial meetings recently between Al Maliki and Ahmadinejad of Iran. As Joe Lieberman whispered to McCain this week when McCain failed to understand that Iran was Shi’ite dominated and Al Qaeda is Sunni dominated, there is no love lost between Shi’ite Iran and Sunni Al Qaeda.
So who is the US now arming in an effort to bring stability to Iraq? The Sunnis, the party of Al Qaeda. That’s right, we’re arming the guys affiliated with Al Qaeda in an effort to counter the growing influence of Iran in Iraq’s Shi’ite led government. And at a cost of 4000 lives and $12 billion a month, you are paying for the whole sorry thing!
As reported today by Selig S. Harrison, director of the Asia program at the Center for International Policy:
“Until now, I was told, Iran has been actively helping the United States to stabilize Iraq during the “surge” by reducing its weapons inputs to Shi’ite militias, including the Mahdi Army of Moqtada al-Sadr, who has ordered a cease-fire under Iranian pressure. But the message was clear: Unless Petraeus drastically cuts back the Sunni militias, Tehran will unleash the Shi’ite militias against US forces again and step up help to Maliki’s intelligence service, the Ministry of National Security. The United States has created a rival agency under Sunni control, the National Intelligence Service.
“The tensions building between the Maliki government and the Bush administration over Iran’s role in Iraq were underlined recently when Maliki, with visiting President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran at his side, said that Iran “has been very helpful in bringing back security and stability to Iraq.” Two days later, Lieutenant General Ray Odierno, the retiring deputy commander of US forces in Iraq, criticized Iran for continuing to “train surrogates, fund surrogates, and supply weapons to them.”
“The burgeoning US-sponsored Sunni militias so far number some 90,000 US-equipped fighters who are each paid $300 a month. This is euphemistically called the “Sunni Awakening.” The militias pose a growing challenge to the dominance of Maliki’s predominantly Shi’ite army, with its authorized strength of 186,000. Abdul Aziz al-Hakim, the key Shi’ite leader backing Maliki, has repeatedly complained that “weapons should be in the hands of the government only, and the government alone should decide who gets them. The alternative will be perpetual civil war.”
“Iran’s former deputy foreign minister, Mahmoud Vaezi, told me that arming the Sunnis “suggests to us that the US is deliberately seeking to keep them strong enough to undermine al-Maliki and contain our influence. It will be impossible for us to cooperate in stabilizing Iraq if this goes on. If you shift power to the Sunnis, then some Shia groups will say, ‘If we can get more power through terrorist tactics, why not?’ ”
“President Bush attempts to justify an indefinite US military occupation of Iraq as a counter to Iranian influence. But the reality is that Iran will have dominant influence in Iraq whether or not a stable government emerges in Baghdad and whether or not US forces remain. History and ethnic arithmetic make this the inescapable legacy of the US invasion.
“Shi’ites make up 62 percent of the Iraq population. Yet for five centuries, the Ottoman and British invaders who preceded Saddam Hussein, using classic divide-and-rule tactics, installed successive Sunni minority governments to contain the Shi’ite majority. By destroying the Sunni-dominated Hussein regime, Bush gave the Iraqi Shi’ites an unprecedented opportunity to rule that they are now determined to exploit.”
So we have switched from our strategy of arming both sides in the Iraq civil war, now we are backing the guys nominally aligned with Al Qaeda so we can counter Iran’s growing influence in Iraq. Despite the wonderful rhetoric from the impotent Bush yesterday, this is what our Iraq strategy has wrought, and what our boys are dying for.
Instead of defending ourselves from Al Qaeda we have painted ourselves into a corner where we need to fund people aligned with Al Qaeda, the guys who attacked us on 9/11, in order to counter the influence of Iran in the region. And you guys say we’re winning?

]]> By: Steve Dennis http://www.onebigdog.net/out-of-the-frying-pan-into-the-friar/comment-page-1/#comment-114808 Steve Dennis Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:16:10 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/out-of-the-fryng-pan-into-the-friar/#comment-114808 You are right, Obama is an empty suit full of nothing but rhetoric. Now that his rhetoric has fallen apart by his support of this racist he has nothing left. It is over. <em>Steve Dennis's last blog post..<a href='http://mpinkeyes.wordpress.com/2008/03/19/democrats-to-pursue-bush-impeachmentafter-he-is-out-of-office/' rel="nofollow">Democrats to Pursue Bush Impeachment…..After He is Out of Office</a></em> You are right, Obama is an empty suit full of nothing but rhetoric. Now that his rhetoric has fallen apart by his support of this racist he has nothing left. It is over.

Steve Dennis’s last blog post..Democrats to Pursue Bush Impeachment…..After He is Out of Office

]]> By: Mustang http://www.onebigdog.net/out-of-the-frying-pan-into-the-friar/comment-page-1/#comment-114768 Mustang Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:09:12 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/out-of-the-fryng-pan-into-the-friar/#comment-114768 Well, it only gets worse, BD. According to <a href="http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2008/03/19/new-black-panther-party-endorses-obama/" rel="nofollow">this</a> link, Obama also has the support of the New Black Panther Party; I followed the link to that page, since removed. I find that interesting. <em>Mustang's last blog post..<a href='http://socialsense.blogspot.com/2008/03/another-tax.html' rel="nofollow">Another Tax</a></em> Well, it only gets worse, BD. According to this
link, Obama also has the support of the New Black Panther Party; I followed the link to that page, since removed. I find that interesting.

Mustang’s last blog post..Another Tax

]]> By: meatbrain http://www.onebigdog.net/out-of-the-frying-pan-into-the-friar/comment-page-1/#comment-114759 meatbrain Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:49:25 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/out-of-the-fryng-pan-into-the-friar/#comment-114759 <em>"At the same time he is giving his “I have a nightmare” speech he is seeking the endorsement of another divisive racist black man."</em> Where is the evidence that Obama is seeking Sharpton's endorsement, imbecile? “At the same time he is giving his “I have a nightmare” speech he is seeking the endorsement of another divisive racist black man.”

Where is the evidence that Obama is seeking Sharpton’s endorsement, imbecile?

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