Comments on: Obama Might Just Be On To Something http://www.onebigdog.net/obama-might-just-be-on-to-something/ "Let that be a lesson to you, boys and girls. Don't ever argue with the Big Dog because the Big Dog is always right" Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:31:27 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Blake http://www.onebigdog.net/obama-might-just-be-on-to-something/comment-page-1/#comment-143676 Blake Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:32:05 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8328#comment-143676 What has been proposed is not, I REPEAT, NOT, an Income Tax- thus is covered by the fifth amendment. And I will be trying it- along with many of the tea party attendees- lets see how many they can put in jail before there is a real revolt. Thomas Jefferson once advocated a revolution every 25 years or so- I think we might be overdue, don't you? What has been proposed is not, I REPEAT, NOT, an Income Tax- thus is covered by the fifth amendment.
And I will be trying it- along with many of the tea party attendees- lets see how many they can put in jail before there is a real revolt.
Thomas Jefferson once advocated a revolution every 25 years or so- I think we might be overdue, don’t you?

]]> By: Big Dog http://www.onebigdog.net/obama-might-just-be-on-to-something/comment-page-1/#comment-143634 Big Dog Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:03:45 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8328#comment-143634 Well Adam, not everything can be Bush's fault... Well Adam, not everything can be Bush’s fault…

]]> By: Big Dog http://www.onebigdog.net/obama-might-just-be-on-to-something/comment-page-1/#comment-143633 Big Dog Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:03:06 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8328#comment-143633 And therein lies the issue. The CBO based its estimates on the budget that Clinton and Congress passed. IF they had done what they said we would run a surplus (there was no actual surplus because we still had a deficit but it was no where near what it is now). The CBO can only grade what they are given. They graded the pie in the sky stuff that they were told and, as is always the case, the government (both parties) failed to do what was right. And therein lies the issue. The CBO based its estimates on the budget that Clinton and Congress passed. IF they had done what they said we would run a surplus (there was no actual surplus because we still had a deficit but it was no where near what it is now). The CBO can only grade what they are given. They graded the pie in the sky stuff that they were told and, as is always the case, the government (both parties) failed to do what was right.

]]> By: Adam http://www.onebigdog.net/obama-might-just-be-on-to-something/comment-page-1/#comment-143613 Adam Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:54:23 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8328#comment-143613 Revisionist Republican History: The genocide of the Native Americans...yes, it was all one big liberal government intervention gone terribly wrong. Of course this is all Obama's fault as well. Revisionist Republican History: The genocide of the Native Americans…yes, it was all one big liberal government intervention gone terribly wrong. Of course this is all Obama’s fault as well.

]]> By: Darrel http://www.onebigdog.net/obama-might-just-be-on-to-something/comment-page-1/#comment-143610 Darrel Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:14:34 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8328#comment-143610 Blake, if you would like to learn about the debt and deficits we have now, where they came from and Obama's degree of responsibility, you should read this article. It's quite informative: <a>America’s Sea of Red Ink Was Years in the Making -NYT's</a>. Excerpt: "The story of today’s deficits starts in January 2001, as President Bill Clinton was leaving office. The Congressional Budget Office estimated then that the government would run an average annual surplus of more than $800 billion a year from 2009 to 2012. Today, the government is expected to run a $1.2 trillion annual deficit in those years. You can think of that roughly $2 trillion swing as coming from four broad categories: the business cycle, President George W. Bush’s policies, policies from the Bush years that are scheduled to expire but that Mr. Obama has chosen to extend, and new policies proposed by Mr. Obama. The first category — the business cycle — accounts for 37 percent of the $2 trillion swing. It’s a reflection of the fact that both the 2001 recession and the current one reduced tax revenue, required more spending on safety-net programs and changed economists’ assumptions about how much in taxes the government would collect in future years. About 33 percent of the swing stems from new legislation signed by Mr. Bush. That legislation, like his tax cuts and the Medicare prescription drug benefit, not only continue to cost the government but have also increased interest payments on the national debt. Mr. Obama’s main contribution to the deficit is his extension of several Bush policies, like the Iraq war and tax cuts for households making less than $250,000. Such policies — together with the Wall Street bailout, which was signed by Mr. Bush and supported by Mr. Obama — account for 20 percent of the swing. About 7 percent comes from the stimulus bill that Mr. Obama signed in February. And only 3 percent comes from Mr. Obama’s agenda on health care, education, energy and other areas." DAR Take care to note that last sentence. Blake, if you would like to learn about the debt and deficits we have now, where they came from and Obama’s degree of responsibility, you should read this article. It’s quite informative:

America’s Sea of Red Ink Was Years in the Making -NYT’s.

Excerpt:

“The story of today’s deficits starts in January 2001, as President Bill Clinton was leaving office. The Congressional Budget Office estimated then that the government would run an average annual surplus of more than $800 billion a year from 2009 to 2012. Today, the government is expected to run a $1.2 trillion annual deficit in those years.

You can think of that roughly $2 trillion swing as coming from four broad categories: the business cycle, President George W. Bush’s policies, policies from the Bush years that are scheduled to expire but that Mr. Obama has chosen to extend, and new policies proposed by Mr. Obama.

The first category — the business cycle — accounts for 37 percent of the $2 trillion swing. It’s a reflection of the fact that both the 2001 recession and the current one reduced tax revenue, required more spending on safety-net programs and changed economists’ assumptions about how much in taxes the government would collect in future years.

About 33 percent of the swing stems from new legislation signed by Mr. Bush. That legislation, like his tax cuts and the Medicare prescription drug benefit, not only continue to cost the government but have also increased interest payments on the national debt.

Mr. Obama’s main contribution to the deficit is his extension of several Bush policies, like the Iraq war and tax cuts for households making less than $250,000. Such policies — together with the Wall Street bailout, which was signed by Mr. Bush and supported by Mr. Obama — account for 20 percent of the swing.

About 7 percent comes from the stimulus bill that Mr. Obama signed in February. And only 3 percent comes from Mr. Obama’s agenda on health care, education, energy and other areas.”

DAR
Take care to note that last sentence.

]]> By: Darrel http://www.onebigdog.net/obama-might-just-be-on-to-something/comment-page-1/#comment-143606 Darrel Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:18:27 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8328#comment-143606 BLK: "SS and Medicare are insolvent, simply because our government is insolvent" DAR Neither SS, or Medicare or the government are insolvent. Words have meanings. Please learn to use them correctly. D. ------------------ in⋅sol⋅vent –adjective 1. not solvent; unable to satisfy creditors or discharge liabilities, either because liabilities exceed assets or because of inability to pay debts as they mature. 2. pertaining to bankrupt persons or bankruptcy. BLK: “SS and Medicare are insolvent, simply because our government is insolvent”

DAR
Neither SS, or Medicare or the government are insolvent. Words have meanings. Please learn to use them correctly.

D.
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in⋅sol⋅vent

–adjective
1. not solvent; unable to satisfy creditors or discharge liabilities, either because liabilities exceed assets or because of inability to pay debts as they mature.

2. pertaining to bankrupt persons or bankruptcy.

]]> By: Blake http://www.onebigdog.net/obama-might-just-be-on-to-something/comment-page-1/#comment-143602 Blake Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:29:27 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8328#comment-143602 You are really such an idiot, Darrel- how can you even draw a breath with as little brainpower as you have? SS and Medicare are insolvent, simply because our government is insolvent- what part of no money don't you understand? You are really such an idiot, Darrel- how can you even draw a breath with as little brainpower as you have? SS and Medicare are insolvent, simply because our government is insolvent- what part of no money don’t you understand?

]]> By: Darrel http://www.onebigdog.net/obama-might-just-be-on-to-something/comment-page-1/#comment-143576 Darrel Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:38:14 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8328#comment-143576 BLK: "Sounds like the man went terminally insane">> DAR No it was temporary. If you read the article you will see it is about his recovery. Maybe someday you will get well too? D. --------------- "It's not getting any smarter out there. You have to come to terms with stupidity, and make it work for you." -- Frank Zappa BLK: “Sounds like the man went terminally insane”>>

DAR
No it was temporary. If you read the article you will see it is about his recovery. Maybe someday you will get well too?

D.
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“It’s not getting any smarter out there. You have to come to terms with stupidity, and make it work for you.” — Frank Zappa

]]> By: wtf http://www.onebigdog.net/obama-might-just-be-on-to-something/comment-page-1/#comment-143559 wtf Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:13:06 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8328#comment-143559 must be a b1tch to be right all the time how can you live make it through each day must be a b1tch to be right all the time
how can you live make it through each day

]]> By: Adam http://www.onebigdog.net/obama-might-just-be-on-to-something/comment-page-1/#comment-143556 Adam Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:34:59 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8328#comment-143556 Yes, because sane people brag about how they want to see people tortured to death. Yes, because sane people brag about how they want to see people tortured to death.

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