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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.onebigdog.net/obama-goes-all-in/comment-page-1/#comment-149728</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are the two cut lines, not the ones you pointed to:

Bigd: “…spanked in November he will not get another thing passed.”&gt;&gt;

DAR
You don’t believe that. Let’s see how long you stand behind that claim… next sentence:

Bigd: Even if he does…”&gt;&gt;

They were two different things.  Yes, I can show it and did.

As for calling me a child, you can&#039;t possibly say anything too rough for me to handle.  I am more of a man than you could ever hope to be.  I merely make note of your past discussions about name calling.

Thanks for making it clear and keep this in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are the two cut lines, not the ones you pointed to:</p>
<p>Bigd: “…spanked in November he will not get another thing passed.”>></p>
<p>DAR<br />
You don’t believe that. Let’s see how long you stand behind that claim… next sentence:</p>
<p>Bigd: Even if he does…”>></p>
<p>They were two different things.  Yes, I can show it and did.</p>
<p>As for calling me a child, you can&#8217;t possibly say anything too rough for me to handle.  I am more of a man than you could ever hope to be.  I merely make note of your past discussions about name calling.</p>
<p>Thanks for making it clear and keep this in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Darrel</title>
		<link>http://www.onebigdog.net/obama-goes-all-in/comment-page-1/#comment-149717</link>
		<dc:creator>Darrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bigd: you cut and paste to give a different impression of what I said.&quot;&gt;&gt;

DAR
  No I didn&#039;t.

Bigd: You used parts of two sentences to display a different thought than conveyed.&quot;&gt;&gt;

DAR
  I did not. I edited your first two sentences down to:

“when you used the word children… it was either and[sic] insult or a sarcasm.”

Show this is IN ANY WAY not exactly 100% consistent with your first two sentences or a &quot;different thought&quot; than what you meant to &quot;convey.&quot; You can&#039;t.

Bigd: &quot;So you were insultimg me when you used the word children.&quot;&gt;&gt;

DAR
  It was directed more at Porretto actually but I guess it grazed you too. Was that too rough? Are you getting sensitive like Mike? That is, sensitive about receiving, not about dishing out.

Bigd: &quot;Do you treat other hosts this way?&quot;&gt;&gt;

DAR
  I treat everyone with the respect they deserve. I&#039;ll try to be nicer.

D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bigd: you cut and paste to give a different impression of what I said.&#8221;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>DAR<br />
  No I didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Bigd: You used parts of two sentences to display a different thought than conveyed.&#8221;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>DAR<br />
  I did not. I edited your first two sentences down to:</p>
<p>“when you used the word children… it was either and[sic] insult or a sarcasm.”</p>
<p>Show this is IN ANY WAY not exactly 100% consistent with your first two sentences or a &#8220;different thought&#8221; than what you meant to &#8220;convey.&#8221; You can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Bigd: &#8220;So you were insultimg me when you used the word children.&#8221;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>DAR<br />
  It was directed more at Porretto actually but I guess it grazed you too. Was that too rough? Are you getting sensitive like Mike? That is, sensitive about receiving, not about dishing out.</p>
<p>Bigd: &#8220;Do you treat other hosts this way?&#8221;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>DAR<br />
  I treat everyone with the respect they deserve. I&#8217;ll try to be nicer.</p>
<p>D.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.onebigdog.net/obama-goes-all-in/comment-page-1/#comment-149698</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again Darrel, you cut and paste to give a different impression of what I said.  Mike is right, you use things out of context.  You used parts of two sentences to display a different thought than conveyed.

So you were insultimg me when you used the word children.  You are in no position to make such an assessment.

Do you treat other hosts this way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again Darrel, you cut and paste to give a different impression of what I said.  Mike is right, you use things out of context.  You used parts of two sentences to display a different thought than conveyed.</p>
<p>So you were insultimg me when you used the word children.  You are in no position to make such an assessment.</p>
<p>Do you treat other hosts this way?</p>
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		<title>By: Darrel</title>
		<link>http://www.onebigdog.net/obama-goes-all-in/comment-page-1/#comment-149684</link>
		<dc:creator>Darrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 04:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bigd: &quot;I think Francis was being sarcastic...&quot;&gt;&gt;

DAR
  That&#039;s not sarcasm.

Bigd: &quot;when you used the word children... it was either and insult or a sarcasm.&quot;

DAR
  It wasn&#039;t sarcasm.

Bigd: &quot;Obama is not about to win anything.&quot;&gt;&gt;

DAR
  Yes he is.

Bigd: &quot;...spanked in November he will not get another thing passed.&quot;&gt;&gt;

DAR
  You don&#039;t believe that. Let&#039;s see how long you stand behind that claim... next sentence:

Bigd: Even if he does...&quot;&gt;&gt;

DAR
  Thought so.

Bigd: &quot;[Obama] will get nothing passed because Republicans will filibuster everything.&quot;&gt;&gt;

DAR
  They&#039;ve already tried that game. And how&#039;s that strategy working out for the leaderless party of no ideas? See below.

D.
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Congress approval, Democrats:

1/12-17/10  40%

3/3-8/10   36%

Same poll, Congress approval, Republicans:

1/12-17/10  32%

3/3-8/10  30%

&lt;a href=&quot;http://pollingreport.com/congress.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;AP-GfK Poll conducted by GfK Roper Public Affairs &amp; Media.&lt;/a&gt;.

What&#039;s that definition of insanity again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bigd: &#8220;I think Francis was being sarcastic&#8230;&#8221;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>DAR<br />
  That&#8217;s not sarcasm.</p>
<p>Bigd: &#8220;when you used the word children&#8230; it was either and insult or a sarcasm.&#8221;</p>
<p>DAR<br />
  It wasn&#8217;t sarcasm.</p>
<p>Bigd: &#8220;Obama is not about to win anything.&#8221;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>DAR<br />
  Yes he is.</p>
<p>Bigd: &#8220;&#8230;spanked in November he will not get another thing passed.&#8221;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>DAR<br />
  You don&#8217;t believe that. Let&#8217;s see how long you stand behind that claim&#8230; next sentence:</p>
<p>Bigd: Even if he does&#8230;&#8221;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>DAR<br />
  Thought so.</p>
<p>Bigd: &#8220;[Obama] will get nothing passed because Republicans will filibuster everything.&#8221;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>DAR<br />
  They&#8217;ve already tried that game. And how&#8217;s that strategy working out for the leaderless party of no ideas? See below.</p>
<p>D.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Congress approval, Democrats:</p>
<p>1/12-17/10  40%</p>
<p>3/3-8/10   36%</p>
<p>Same poll, Congress approval, Republicans:</p>
<p>1/12-17/10  32%</p>
<p>3/3-8/10  30%</p>
<p><a href="http://pollingreport.com/congress.htm" rel="nofollow">AP-GfK Poll conducted by GfK Roper Public Affairs &amp; Media.</a>.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s that definition of insanity again?</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.onebigdog.net/obama-goes-all-in/comment-page-1/#comment-149679</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Francis was being sarcastic sort of like you were when you used the word children to describe us.  Though I know you feel superior to everyone I am in no way a child to you in any imaginable way so it was either and insult or a sarcasm.  At least that is how I took it.

Obama is not about to win anything.  When he gets spanked in November he will not get another thing passed.

Even if he does not he will get nothing passed because Republicans will filibuster everything.  He will be dead in the water.

And the only package he has of any size is that big asses wife he has.  She should have a wide load sign on that ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Francis was being sarcastic sort of like you were when you used the word children to describe us.  Though I know you feel superior to everyone I am in no way a child to you in any imaginable way so it was either and insult or a sarcasm.  At least that is how I took it.</p>
<p>Obama is not about to win anything.  When he gets spanked in November he will not get another thing passed.</p>
<p>Even if he does not he will get nothing passed because Republicans will filibuster everything.  He will be dead in the water.</p>
<p>And the only package he has of any size is that big asses wife he has.  She should have a wide load sign on that ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Darrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Francis is right here. If the democrats pass their own bill, every single democrat in congress will be voted out. Not a single one will remain. And that bit about Obama and zero electoral votes. That&#039;s right too.

Makes sense really.

I think Porretto was sensing that Bigd might be even a little crazier than he, and he thought he should show him who can really pound their head the hardest against that rubber wall. Children.

Obama&#039;s got a big victory cooking up. And nothing makes the &lt;a href=&quot;http://republicandirtytricks.com/Images/BlogImages/Glenn_Beck_Straightjacket.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wingers more wacky&lt;/a&gt; than a big ole spanking from &lt;a href=&quot;http://therealrevo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/cool.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;brother Obama&lt;/a&gt;.

Watch for it.

D.
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Or perhaps the republicans are just turned off &lt;a href=&quot;http://fayfreethinkers.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=21083#p21083&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;by the size of Obama&#039;s package?&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Francis is right here. If the democrats pass their own bill, every single democrat in congress will be voted out. Not a single one will remain. And that bit about Obama and zero electoral votes. That&#8217;s right too.</p>
<p>Makes sense really.</p>
<p>I think Porretto was sensing that Bigd might be even a little crazier than he, and he thought he should show him who can really pound their head the hardest against that rubber wall. Children.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s got a big victory cooking up. And nothing makes the <a href="http://republicandirtytricks.com/Images/BlogImages/Glenn_Beck_Straightjacket.jpg" rel="nofollow">wingers more wacky</a> than a big ole spanking from <a href="http://therealrevo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/cool.jpg" rel="nofollow">brother Obama</a>.</p>
<p>Watch for it.</p>
<p>D.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Or perhaps the republicans are just turned off <a href="http://fayfreethinkers.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=21083#p21083" rel="nofollow">by the size of Obama&#8217;s package?</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: LD Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.onebigdog.net/obama-goes-all-in/comment-page-1/#comment-149660</link>
		<dc:creator>LD Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which method do you want to start with? I would say the one where the Democrats enact a rule that sidesteps a constitutional requirement would be a good start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which method do you want to start with? I would say the one where the Democrats enact a rule that sidesteps a constitutional requirement would be a good start.</p>
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		<title>By: Francis W. Porretto</title>
		<link>http://www.onebigdog.net/obama-goes-all-in/comment-page-1/#comment-149659</link>
		<dc:creator>Francis W. Porretto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will be bad for Obama and the Democrats if the bill fails...but far worse if it passes.

If Pelosi and company somehow muster the votes for their &quot;deem and reconcile&quot; tactic, there won&#039;t be a Democrat in Congress after January 2011. If Obama signs the abortion, he could be the first sitting president to get zero electoral votes in November 2012. The public is on to these types now -- and our memory is longer than the Democrats care to imagine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be bad for Obama and the Democrats if the bill fails&#8230;but far worse if it passes.</p>
<p>If Pelosi and company somehow muster the votes for their &#8220;deem and reconcile&#8221; tactic, there won&#8217;t be a Democrat in Congress after January 2011. If Obama signs the abortion, he could be the first sitting president to get zero electoral votes in November 2012. The public is on to these types now &#8212; and our memory is longer than the Democrats care to imagine.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.onebigdog.net/obama-goes-all-in/comment-page-1/#comment-149656</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I did back it up with the polls from the two Dem pollsters and their assessment.&quot;

You cited the opinion of those two, yes.  They cited Rasmussen which is by far the worst numbers for support at 43% to 53%.  That&#039;s hardly evidence that Americans are &quot;overwhelmingly against this bill&quot; as the article states.  Yet support is &lt;em&gt;still&lt;/em&gt; on the rise despite what you keep insisting.  

&quot;Adam refuses to believe anything that does not fit his indoctrination.&quot;

Sorry, but I&#039;m not the one ignoring the poll numbers for support over the last few weeks in order to cite the opinion of two Democrats that don&#039;t know what they&#039;re talking about.  But go ahead and say the public hates it and the lack of support is rising.  Meanwhile the support is actually rising and the bill is going to pass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I did back it up with the polls from the two Dem pollsters and their assessment.&#8221;</p>
<p>You cited the opinion of those two, yes.  They cited Rasmussen which is by far the worst numbers for support at 43% to 53%.  That&#8217;s hardly evidence that Americans are &#8220;overwhelmingly against this bill&#8221; as the article states.  Yet support is <em>still</em> on the rise despite what you keep insisting.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Adam refuses to believe anything that does not fit his indoctrination.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, but I&#8217;m not the one ignoring the poll numbers for support over the last few weeks in order to cite the opinion of two Democrats that don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re talking about.  But go ahead and say the public hates it and the lack of support is rising.  Meanwhile the support is actually rising and the bill is going to pass.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.onebigdog.net/obama-goes-all-in/comment-page-1/#comment-149651</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh but he is not passing what he campaigned on.  He was against mandates and now is for them.  Let&#039;s see how the young crowd likes it when they find out it is not &quot;free&quot; and they have to buy insurance.  He was in favor of the public option and anti pharma but he dropped the public option and cut deals with pharma.  It might have something to do with the fact that he received about 20 million dollars from health care interests during the campaign.  He is bought and paid for.

You forgot to talk about all the taxes that will go into place before this takes place and the half trillion dollar cut to Medicare.  Not sure what you wrote is true.

But they have to get the votes first and Dems in the House are not happy about it.  I think it would be great for them to pass it and then have it ruled unconstitutional because of the way they did it.  

And yes, they will lose even more seats if they vote for it.  I did back it up with the polls from the two Dem pollsters and their assessment.  Adam refuses to believe anything that does not fit his indoctrination.  And yes, I do believe it and for more than a moment.

Owebama said not to play politics but he said he will not campaign for any Dem who votes no.  That is politics.  I know that happens so don&#039;t give me the &quot;oh a politician played politics&quot; because he is the one who said that it is time to stop playing politics.

Kind of funny.  Given his track record maybe those for whom he does not campaign will be better off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh but he is not passing what he campaigned on.  He was against mandates and now is for them.  Let&#8217;s see how the young crowd likes it when they find out it is not &#8220;free&#8221; and they have to buy insurance.  He was in favor of the public option and anti pharma but he dropped the public option and cut deals with pharma.  It might have something to do with the fact that he received about 20 million dollars from health care interests during the campaign.  He is bought and paid for.</p>
<p>You forgot to talk about all the taxes that will go into place before this takes place and the half trillion dollar cut to Medicare.  Not sure what you wrote is true.</p>
<p>But they have to get the votes first and Dems in the House are not happy about it.  I think it would be great for them to pass it and then have it ruled unconstitutional because of the way they did it.  </p>
<p>And yes, they will lose even more seats if they vote for it.  I did back it up with the polls from the two Dem pollsters and their assessment.  Adam refuses to believe anything that does not fit his indoctrination.  And yes, I do believe it and for more than a moment.</p>
<p>Owebama said not to play politics but he said he will not campaign for any Dem who votes no.  That is politics.  I know that happens so don&#8217;t give me the &#8220;oh a politician played politics&#8221; because he is the one who said that it is time to stop playing politics.</p>
<p>Kind of funny.  Given his track record maybe those for whom he does not campaign will be better off.</p>
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