DAR
If you had good arguments/evidence for your claims you would use those rather than appeal to personal attack.

Bigd: Why should the wealthy pay 95% of the taxes>>

DAR
Because they (top 1%) have 95% of the wealth and this wealth is entirely dependent upon the health of the whole system.

Bigd: The tax rate should be equal across the board>>

DAR
Well then they can expect to get hammered even more. If Buffet were taxed at the same rate as his secretary his effective tax hit would almost double. Instead, the rules let the rich hide/shelter the vast majority of their wealth.

That said, the US tax system is, as you point out, rather progressive for the lower income folks. And that’s a good thing.

Bigd: Right now 40% of the people can vote and pay nothing>>

DAR
Voting has nothing to do with “paying.” See the Constitution.

Apparently what you want is a permanent aristocracy, not a democracy. Congratulations, we’re getting pretty close.

But after a while, you get too many poor people and just a few very wealthy people (see that 1%), then the poor rise up and eat the rich.

D.

Why should the wealthy pay 95% of the taxes when they use far less government services than the other 95%?

The tax rate should be equal across the board so each person pays the same percent of income. Then everyone has an equal say in government. Right now 40% of the people can vote and pay nothing toward running the government (Medicare and SS are things they pay to benefit from in the future).

The top 60% do not account for the greatest number of people.

The wealthy certainly did better in raw dollars but the middle class had a better percentage cut. Considering 40% do not pay taxes and they received credits and rebates then they made out well.

DAR
According to Michael Moore’s new movie:

“The richest 1 percent have more financial wealth than the bottom 95 percent combined.”

So why aren’t they paying 95% of the taxes?

They’ve bought the politicians and are ripping us off.

Know what I like about Michael Moore? When he comes out with a documentary (usually recording breaking and always award winning) he backs up all of his claims, line by line, on his website. I don’t know anyone else that does that. Then when the lying liars, and BS artists spread their stuff around and go after him, all I have to do is go to his site and check his references. And then I bust them on their lies. Nice.

Oh if I only had a dime for every lie about Michael Moore I have knocked down!

D.
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CapitalismALoveStory.com

AP: ‘Warmly Received’ | Variety: ‘Returning to His Roots, One of His Best Films’ | Time: ‘Moore’s Magnum Opus’ | Bloomberg: ‘Scathing, Effective and Hilarious’ | The Independent: ‘Rousing and Entertaining’ | Guardian: ‘Tumultuous Applause’

Next week.

DAR
Again with the word games and pretending not to understand grade school definitions.

From dictionary.com:

broke
–verb
4. without money; penniless.
5. bankrupt.

8. go broke,
a. to become destitute of money or possessions.
b. to go bankrupt: In that business people are forever going broke.

Synonyms:
4, 5. insolvent, destitute, impoverished.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/broke

Bigd: “Also, you forgot to add Obama to your names of people who have added to the debt.>>

DAR
He’s still operating under a budget shared with Bush. Too early. Considering the train wreck he walked in upon, reasonable people will be giving him quite a break.

Bigd: “You also forgot Clinton and Carter.”>>

DAR
No I didn’t. They didn’t add to the debt. Reference already provided.

Bigd: “I have always railed against adding to the debt.”>>

DAR
Republicans do that. Then they blow money like drunken sailors. Usually on wars and subsidies for the rich. Stupid stuff.

Bigd: “VA and Medicare are not less than private. Demonstrated time and again.”>>

DAR
Try again:

Overview of VA Cost Methods – How do VA costs compare to the cost of non-VA providers?

Excerpts:

“Comparison of VA Cost to Medicare Reimbursement

The most thorough study comparing the relative cost of VA provided care was an HSR&D study that compared actual VA costs at six VA medical centers to the hypothetical fee-for-service payments for the same services that would have been paid by Medicare. The final report (Nugent, 2004) found that VA was providing care at a lower cost.”

[Dar note]: The VA gets it done cheaper than the rates medicare pays.

“CONCLUSIONS: That review finds no convincing evidence that VA has been significantly more or less efficient than nonfederal hospitals in delivering care. However, VA costs do appear to have been significantly lower than fee-for-service charges that the federal government might have to pay if veterans were treated in private sector hospitals for the same diagnoses.”

http://www.herc.research.va.gov/resources/faq_b06.asp

D.

What would this tell a thinking person about income distribution?

Of course under U.S. tax policy since 1930 higher incomes have paid higher rates of taxes. This has been true of all the presidents since Hoover. So how does Bush’s tax rates differ?

The top 60% of wage earners pay 100% of the income taxes. The top 1% pay about 25%.

No matter how you slice it, the wealthy pay more.