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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.onebigdog.net/obama-and-dodd-are-to-blame-for-aig-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-128368</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 02:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was flawed policy that allowed them to over leverage.  Regardless, there is no reason to go after the people who received retention bonuses per their contracts.  If they had all quit at once AIG would have been in the same boat.

I don&#039;t believe that it would have been that bad if they would have gone under.  Troubling, yes but we could have taken the hit.

I wonder why Frank thinks it is OK to just change the conditions of the contracts and take the money but has not told the auto unions that the government is going to negate their contracts and start over.

If we are going to get upset about money then let us get upset about the money paid to Dodd and Obama in campaign contributions.  100k each...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was flawed policy that allowed them to over leverage.  Regardless, there is no reason to go after the people who received retention bonuses per their contracts.  If they had all quit at once AIG would have been in the same boat.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that it would have been that bad if they would have gone under.  Troubling, yes but we could have taken the hit.</p>
<p>I wonder why Frank thinks it is OK to just change the conditions of the contracts and take the money but has not told the auto unions that the government is going to negate their contracts and start over.</p>
<p>If we are going to get upset about money then let us get upset about the money paid to Dodd and Obama in campaign contributions.  100k each&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Pink Eyes</title>
		<link>http://www.onebigdog.net/obama-and-dodd-are-to-blame-for-aig-mess/comment-page-1/#comment-128366</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Pink Eyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 02:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes you wonder if they didn&#039;t read the bill so that they could later deny knowledge of Dodd&#039;s amendment. And to Adam, today Dodd admitted on CNN that he did write the amendment that protected AIG and allowed them to pay the bonuses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes you wonder if they didn&#8217;t read the bill so that they could later deny knowledge of Dodd&#8217;s amendment. And to Adam, today Dodd admitted on CNN that he did write the amendment that protected AIG and allowed them to pay the bonuses.</p>
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		<title>By: jax</title>
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		<dc:creator>jax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 02:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Breaking News: Dodd Says loophole that protects AIG Bonuses added per request of the Obama administration. The video is about a fifth of the way down.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.butasforme.com/2009/03/17/obamas-stimulus-bill-explicitly-grants-aig-the-legal-right-to-hand-out-bonuses/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
http://www.butasforme.com/2009/03/17/obamas-stimulus-bill-explicitly-grants-aig-the-legal-right-to-hand-out-bonuses/&lt;/a&gt;

Obama should take full and direct responsibility for this mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Breaking News: Dodd Says loophole that protects AIG Bonuses added per request of the Obama administration. The video is about a fifth of the way down.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.butasforme.com/2009/03/17/obamas-stimulus-bill-explicitly-grants-aig-the-legal-right-to-hand-out-bonuses/" rel="nofollow"><br />
</a><a href="http://www.butasforme.com/2009/03/17/obamas-stimulus-bill-explicitly-grants-aig-the-legal-right-to-hand-out-bonuses/" rel="nofollow">http://www.butasforme.com/2009/03/17/obamas-stimulus-bill-explicitly-grants-aig-the-legal-right-to-hand-out-bonuses/</a></p>
<p>Obama should take full and direct responsibility for this mess.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me just remind folks that flawed policy is no proof that there should have been no policy.  This is not like the auto-bailouts where the companies failing just meant job losses and consumer suffering.  

If AIG had failed on it&#039;s own it would have taken a lot of other financial institutions down with it.  This isn&#039;t to suggest a more &quot;orderly&quot; failure for AIG isn&#039;t in the future but AIG falling over in the wake of Lehman would have very likely ushered in a massive crisis on par with the Great Depression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me just remind folks that flawed policy is no proof that there should have been no policy.  This is not like the auto-bailouts where the companies failing just meant job losses and consumer suffering.  </p>
<p>If AIG had failed on it&#8217;s own it would have taken a lot of other financial institutions down with it.  This isn&#8217;t to suggest a more &#8220;orderly&#8221; failure for AIG isn&#8217;t in the future but AIG falling over in the wake of Lehman would have very likely ushered in a massive crisis on par with the Great Depression.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do they want to blame the company for following a law that Obama signed?

This is what happens when they don&#039;t read the bills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do they want to blame the company for following a law that Obama signed?</p>
<p>This is what happens when they don&#8217;t read the bills.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe Dodd.  He got caught and is trying to cover his butt.  AIG disclosed this last year.  The government knew about it.  Geithner knew about it and a Maryland Congressman addressed it in December.  Many people knew about this before Obama took office and Obama was aware long before he admits.  The time line is showing him to be untruthful.

Liddy said that AIG lawyers could not find a way to stop the bonuses.  They must have been legal if the lawyers could not find a way out of it.

This is what happens when government gets involved in private business.  They should have been left to fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe Dodd.  He got caught and is trying to cover his butt.  AIG disclosed this last year.  The government knew about it.  Geithner knew about it and a Maryland Congressman addressed it in December.  Many people knew about this before Obama took office and Obama was aware long before he admits.  The time line is showing him to be untruthful.</p>
<p>Liddy said that AIG lawyers could not find a way to stop the bonuses.  They must have been legal if the lawyers could not find a way out of it.</p>
<p>This is what happens when government gets involved in private business.  They should have been left to fail.</p>
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		<title>By: herk05</title>
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		<dc:creator>herk05</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about we just lump all of those that wrote the stick-it to us plan and blame them as one entity. A government full of idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about we just lump all of those that wrote the stick-it to us plan and blame them as one entity. A government full of idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all you leave out one piece of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industries/finance/dodd-cracks-aig---time/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the article&lt;/a&gt; when you&#039;re blaming Dodd:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Dodd&#039;s original amendment did not include that exemption, and the Connecticut Senator denied inserting the provision.

&quot;I can&#039;t point a finger at someone who was responsible for putting those dates in,&quot; Dodd told FOX.  &quot;I can tell you this much, when my language left the senate, it did not include it. When it came back, it did.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Second you and others are misconstruing the clause that did make it into the final version as exempting contracted bonuses period, and not simply exempting the bonuses from the amendments that Dodd proposed. From the &lt;a href=&quot;http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_reports&amp;docid=f:hr016.111.pdf#page=412&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;text of the bill&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The prohibition required under clause (i) shall not be construed to prohibit any bonus payment required to be paid pursuant to a written employment contract executed on or before February 11, 2009, as such valid employment contracts are determined by the Secretary or the designee of the Secretary.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Notice how it says &quot;under clause (i)&quot;.  It doesn&#039;t say anything like &quot;bonus payments required to be paid pursuant to a written employment contract are exempt from restrictions.&quot;

Notice the last part about &quot;determined by the Secretary or the designee of the Secretary.&quot;  As pointed out in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?r111:1:./temp/~r111uVBb3q:e615207:&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dodd Amendment&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The term &quot;Secretary&quot; means the Secretary of the Treasury.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A large part of the outrage here is AIG failing to disclose those given bonuses.  This falls under the watch of Geithner and AIG is breaking the law by hiding these details from him.

I think this whole conversation about the bonuses and Dodd on your end is full of a great deal of misinformation and folks at Fox and Limbaugh and Drudge are helping spread the lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all you leave out one piece of <a href="http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industries/finance/dodd-cracks-aig---time/" rel="nofollow">the article</a> when you&#8217;re blaming Dodd:</p>
<blockquote><p>Dodd&#8217;s original amendment did not include that exemption, and the Connecticut Senator denied inserting the provision.</p>
<p>&#8220;I can&#8217;t point a finger at someone who was responsible for putting those dates in,&#8221; Dodd told FOX.  &#8220;I can tell you this much, when my language left the senate, it did not include it. When it came back, it did.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Second you and others are misconstruing the clause that did make it into the final version as exempting contracted bonuses period, and not simply exempting the bonuses from the amendments that Dodd proposed. From the <a href="http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_reports&amp;docid=f:hr016.111.pdf#page=412" rel="nofollow">text of the bill</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The prohibition required under clause (i) shall not be construed to prohibit any bonus payment required to be paid pursuant to a written employment contract executed on or before February 11, 2009, as such valid employment contracts are determined by the Secretary or the designee of the Secretary.</p></blockquote>
<p>Notice how it says &#8220;under clause (i)&#8221;.  It doesn&#8217;t say anything like &#8220;bonus payments required to be paid pursuant to a written employment contract are exempt from restrictions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Notice the last part about &#8220;determined by the Secretary or the designee of the Secretary.&#8221;  As pointed out in the <a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?r111:1:./temp/~r111uVBb3q:e615207:" rel="nofollow">Dodd Amendment</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The term &#8220;Secretary&#8221; means the Secretary of the Treasury.</p></blockquote>
<p>A large part of the outrage here is AIG failing to disclose those given bonuses.  This falls under the watch of Geithner and AIG is breaking the law by hiding these details from him.</p>
<p>I think this whole conversation about the bonuses and Dodd on your end is full of a great deal of misinformation and folks at Fox and Limbaugh and Drudge are helping spread the lies.</p>
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		<title>By: whitejinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>whitejinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why oh why do you want to blame two people personally for a company&#039;s &quot;fuzzy&quot; explanation as to why they needed to be bailed out to begin with. You guys just can&#039;t leave race out of anything.Would you rather have this nation turn into beyond thunderdome or do want some reparation of the previous disasters imposed on the economy.I have a very bad feeling that no matter what President Obama does, republicans are going to swell the situation into a living hell. Just to show Americans that a person of African decent will never be competent enough to do anything of importance. A national division close to what is going on in the middle east then you boys will be grateful for our leader that will be crammed into position.Where do I get my info? From your blogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why oh why do you want to blame two people personally for a company&#8217;s &#8220;fuzzy&#8221; explanation as to why they needed to be bailed out to begin with. You guys just can&#8217;t leave race out of anything.Would you rather have this nation turn into beyond thunderdome or do want some reparation of the previous disasters imposed on the economy.I have a very bad feeling that no matter what President Obama does, republicans are going to swell the situation into a living hell. Just to show Americans that a person of African decent will never be competent enough to do anything of importance. A national division close to what is going on in the middle east then you boys will be grateful for our leader that will be crammed into position.Where do I get my info? From your blogs.</p>
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		<title>By: FairestWitness</title>
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		<dc:creator>FairestWitness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cardinal sin in business is to lose money.  AIG is losing billions every few months.  If the taxpayers hadn&#039;t given AIG all those billions, they&#039;d be bankrupt, out of business, kaput!

And there&#039;d have been NO paychecks, period.  This is what should have happened to AIG.  They are still bankrupt, even after all the billions we&#039;ve pumped into them. 

So answer this question; why does our government, Congress, the White House, the Treasury; want to bail out AIG?  I don&#039;t buy the argument that it&#039;s too big to fail.  That&#039;s an absolutely idiotic position.

Why is our government hellbent on saving this Titanic of a company?  Mortgage derivatives insured by them?  Fannie Mae &amp; Freddie Mac bundled mortgages?  Is AIG responsible to the federal government for policies insuring bad mortgages?  

And finally, how did this company get into this mess?

Something about this whole scenario stinks to high heaven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cardinal sin in business is to lose money.  AIG is losing billions every few months.  If the taxpayers hadn&#8217;t given AIG all those billions, they&#8217;d be bankrupt, out of business, kaput!</p>
<p>And there&#8217;d have been NO paychecks, period.  This is what should have happened to AIG.  They are still bankrupt, even after all the billions we&#8217;ve pumped into them. </p>
<p>So answer this question; why does our government, Congress, the White House, the Treasury; want to bail out AIG?  I don&#8217;t buy the argument that it&#8217;s too big to fail.  That&#8217;s an absolutely idiotic position.</p>
<p>Why is our government hellbent on saving this Titanic of a company?  Mortgage derivatives insured by them?  Fannie Mae &amp; Freddie Mac bundled mortgages?  Is AIG responsible to the federal government for policies insuring bad mortgages?  </p>
<p>And finally, how did this company get into this mess?</p>
<p>Something about this whole scenario stinks to high heaven.</p>
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