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They are veterans who belong to a motorcycle gang and they come in all colors. They guard funerals against people like Phelps and none of them has ever attacked Phelps despite your thuggery claim. They surround the event so the idiots cannot get through.

Who are the Patriot Guard riders? Is that some sort of White biker gang? is it just me or do wingnuts (as opposed to traditional conservatives – I think you folks call them ‘RINOS’) get some sort of macho thrill out of thuggery? Right… it’s not me – Wingnuts do like thuggery, as long as it’s wrapped in an American flag.

As for method, a person probably had an oil can or syringe with a petroleum based product and walked along squirting it out the side so it looked like they were walking, not defacing.

It would be hard to take pictures to show size of crowd. Besides, any picture can be made to look like it is more or less than reality, the MSM does this all the time.

We use the park service estimates and for the March rally they estimated us at 30k and them at 10k. We will more than likely outnumber them.

As for the peaceful protesters, I have seen to many who try to provoke, who push or who try to incite violence through word and deed. In March they tried to use force to get through until they met a bunch of men who would have none of it.

They had plenty of websites from the radical anti war groups 9not just the Commies) who made such threats and posted how to do it with the anarchists leading the charge. It must have been a credible threat because the police set up metal detectors and made everyone empty pockets, purses and bags for inspection before they could go view the wall. That thwarted much of the effort until they tried to break through the fence barrier. They did not get far and retreated quickly.

Moonbat a general term? Sure , sort of like wingnut (a kettle and pot thing).

I do not espouse violence unnecessarily and neither do most people on the right. We understand that sometimes violence is necessary and though it is ugly it must be done. We would not be a nation today if we had not taken to violence because the history of the world is full of stories about conquerors and warrior nations. As long as there is aggression there will be a need to use violence.

The difference between the wingnuts and the moonbats is that one side understands this and the other thinks that all issues can be settled by talking. While that sounds intellectual it is not reality. until it is, we will need to be ready to do violence on behalf of the protected. And in case you missed it, the left is good at lumping the right into Nazis and the KKK. Your indication that most wingnuts LUST for violence (while incorrect) is an example of lumping people together under an umbrella and yet your doing so coupled with the use of wingnut shows you think it is appropriate to do so.

We will always need a military. The threat of violence or aggressive action is necessary to keep peace. If that were not true, we would not need the police.

Phelps is a mental case and he hates the right and left equally. he uses the name of God to push an agenda against homosexuals. That is certainly not what the God I worship would want. I have been to one of those funerals. Phelps never got close thanks to the work of the Patriot Guard riders and a few hundred local citizens. His agenda is to incite people to assault one of his crew so he can sue for money to finance his lunacy.

On the other hand, a wingnut who wants to rile up the GOE guys and goose attendence WOULD smear vaseline on it because it won’t cause severe damage but they can still blame moonbats for ‘defacing’ the memorial. If we’re going to make an accusation without any evidence, I actually think it’s more likely that some doughy Chickenhawk Karl Rove wannabe did it.

That or some moron somehow spilled his vaseline on it by accident.

Unfortunately, I won’t be going to the protest, but I was in NYC for the RNC protests in 2004. Conservatively, there were about 250,000 marching against the war and about 1,000 (plus the corny RNC delegates who barricaded themselves in MSG) who supported it. I participated in the 1000 Coffins part of the march:

http://www.newdepression.com/onethousandcoffins/aug_29_pix/pages/APpanorama_jpg.htm

Of course, that was back when only 1000 US soldiers had been killed in Iraq.

I didn’t notice aggressive peace protesters. It’s sort of a contradiction in terms, don’t you think? Agressive pro-war demonstrators on the other hand, is a natural fit. Your commenter above, irtexas44, is a good example. He lusts for violence (or at least claims he does) as do most wingnuts, if their comments are any indication.

I’m not aware of threats posted on communist websites. I probably wouldn’t take them terribly seriously, either. it’s interesting that you lump non-conservatives together under the broad ‘moonbat’ banner. It’s like conservatives being lumped together with the Klan, the neo-Nazis and the God Hates Fags guy, Fred Phelps, who protests – in the name of God – at the funerals of US soldiers.

You should take lots of photos at the gathering so we can see which movement gets more people out. Preferably something expansive so we can get a sense how many people actually show up.

I blamed it on a moonbat given the threats made by them in the past and indicated in the post that non moonbats would not do such a thing. I also indicated that if it were proven otherwise, I would apologize.

As for the rumors, not so. Those were actual threats posted on various websites of the idiots attending the Communist rallies in DC.

I told you before, there are a bunch of veterans in GOE who would be more than happy to go look for OBL. However, if we go we will not be bound by the silly ROE imposed upon our troops.

I don’t know if you have been to any of these “peace” protests but the protesters of whom you speak are anything but peaceful. They continuously attempt to provoke those who disagree with them, albeit from a safe distance.

They actually tried to bum rush a barrier to get through the last time but decided to retreat when a bunch of folks who know how to fight got in their way.

These memorials are at a greater danger when rallies are happening because more of the kind of people who would do such a thing are in the area. At any other given time there are only residents, employees, and tourists there. The incident happened when a large group of anti war protesters were in town and this is not a coincidence. It was your peaceful protesters who painted the steps to the Capitol.

People who would belong to the GOE do not do these kinds of things because we have more respect than that.

They also need to pay for the restoration. I have already left a note that the candy ass pink panties are going to show up on another post.