Looks Like Gitmo Will Be Open Longer Than Promised
by Big Dog on Dec 26, 2009 at 05:16 Political
Barack Obama roared into office with lots of bluster and one of the things he did was sign an order to close the prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. He said that it would be closed in a year and that year ends in January of 2010. After Obama signed the order to close Gitmo he began to see how difficult it would be to close the place.
He was able to move a few of the prisoners but many remain and now he has a plan to move them to Illinois. I do not like the idea of moving them to the US. It really makes no sense to move them from one prison to another for the sake of closing Gitmo. The outcome is the same but with different locations. The only thing I like about it is that the terrorists held in Gitmo will move from the comfortable weather in Cuba to the harsh winters of Illinois. I love the idea of these people freezing their rear ends off. How many claims of torture will come from this?
The plan to move them to Illinois is meeting resistance form residents of the state and the whole plan requires Congressional action with regard to funding and changing the law that only allows detainees to be held in the US while they await trial. Many of them have not been charged so the law would need to be changed. Many members of Congress might be reluctant to move these people to the US and to change current law when so many Americans oppose the idea. The whole mess now means that Gitmo will likely not be closed until 2011.
Oops, looks like Obama made a commitment that he could not keep. I think he overestimated his ability and the difficulty of accomplishing the task. I think he believed the messianic hype his followers were spewing and believed that he could walk on water.
Instead, he is drowning in a promise he could not keep.
This is what happens when they send a child to do a man’s job.
Somehow, he will blame this on Bush.
Source:
My Way News
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Tags: broken promise, cuba, guantanamo bay, illinois, Obama, terrorists
Bigd: “Somehow, he will blame this on Bush.”>>
DAR
Why on earth would anyone blame the Gitmo mess on Bush?
D.
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“I’d like to close Guantanamo,” Mr Bush said. “But I also recognise that we’re holding some people that are darned dangerous, and that we’d better have a plan to deal with them in our courts.
“No question, Guantanamo sends, you know, a signal to some of our friends – provides an excuse, for example, to say, ’The United States is not upholding the values that they’re trying (to) encourage other countries to adhere to.’
“My answer to them is, is that we are a nation of laws. Eventually, these people will have trials and they will have counsel and they will be represented in a court of law.”
Bush: ‘I’d like to close Guantanamo Bay’
It’s easy to torture people, and abuse them and trample on their rights. It’s much harder to follow the rule of law and go through the process of making sure your prisoners are actually, guilty. So we have Obama, cleaning up yet another Bush sh!tpile and doing what Bush didn’t have the balls to do.
“President Barack Obama issued a Presidential Memorandum dated December 15, 2009 formally closing the detention center and ordering the transfer of prisoners to the Thomson Correctional Center, Thomson, Illinois.”
Link.
You funny little (and I mean very little man). Obama cleaning up a mess. No jackass, he is paying off Illinois with money by moving terrorists there.
This is not a Bush mess. The terrorists were caught on a battlefield and could have had military tribunals which were in motion. ACLU and Obambam stopped some of them.
But Eff you and the terrorists. Eff you blaming it all on Bush. You know nothing and should go back to Canada with the rest of the know nothings.
No one was tortured and no one had their rights trampled on. THEY HAVE NO RIGHTS. Jackass, they are not citizens and while they were in Gitmo they were not falsely given the rights of citizens. Move them here and bleeding hearts will give them that which they do not deserve.
All soldiers on the battlefield, KILL the enemy. Do not capture them or jackasses like Obama and Darrel will treat them with the utmost love. KILL them all. Shoot and bomb them. Take no prisoners and we do not have to worry about liberals giving them love.
As for Darrel and the libs, Eff you. I have no use nor patience for liberal jerk offs so they can all die. Maybe one of the terrorists they bend over for can return the favor by taking a few liberal lives. The US would be a better place if that plane had hit the Capitol. Then it would be a serious issue and not a political one.
Notice people, this is Darrel pulling his pants down for Obama who is unable to keep his promise because he is inexperienced and let his own hype make the decisions…
Blame Bush, Blame Bush. It is all Obama’s fault.
As I have said before, Darrel has a set of Presidential kneepads that he regularly uses-The Resident has a speech impediment- his lack of a grasp of reality- everything is “blame Bush”, when in reality, if he was a man, he would accept the blame for his ineptitude.
But as we have seen, from Carter, to Clinton, to O’bama- none of them have the capacity for accepting blame- like the children they truly are, they will blame any and everyone else.
What ChickenShiites.
BLK: “everything is “blame Bush”, when in reality, if he was a man, he would accept the blame for his ineptitude.”>>
DAR
It really isn’t a stretch to assign immense and non-stop blame to your Bush guy. I don’t know of a single component that we measure presidents by that improved in his time. Every one of these components got better under Clinton (so we know it can be done).
See this comparison:
The Country Bush Inherited, The Country Bush Leaves Behind
That was in Jan. of 2008 so Bigd, can’t try his hilarious attempt to blame it on a little demo congress. Bush got far worse after that.
Or see Krugman’s new column “The Big Zero.” Excerpt:
“But from an economic point of view, I’d suggest that we call the decade past the Big Zero. It was a decade in which nothing good happened, and none of the optimistic things we were supposed to believe turned out to be true.”
It’s hard to over emphasize just how bad of a disaster your Bush, the pinnacle of conservative power, was. I will be telling the grand kiddies about him in the 2040’s and probably still blaming some stuff on him.
He was just that bad. Worst President Ever.
D.
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Republicans Aren’t Even Good for the Rich.
Right, and the fact that he received a recession and then had to deal with 9/11, which could have collapsed the financial power of the country, had nothing to do with your numbers? The economy was pretty good under Bush.
And as far as him being conservative, not even close. Bush was another progressive.
Krugman’s piece, typical liberal pap. Tax cuts and deregulation are not the problem, too much spending is.
1999 belonged to Clinton and 2009 belongs to Obama.
And how do they count jobs now? I know they leave out many things. I don’t trust government numbers. Their numbers game is what causes problems.
Less government is better, always.
Bigd: “And how do they count jobs now? I know they leave out many things.”>>
DAR
This doesn’t leave out many things.
The Simple Arithmetic of Employment: Job Growth Is Always Higher When a Democrat Is In The White House”
Excerpt:
“Over the past 75 years, one trend has held constant. Rapid job growth only occurs when there’s a Democrat in The White House.
No Republican President — not Eisenhower, not Nixon, not Reagan, not Bush — has ever created more jobs, or created jobs at a faster rate, than his Democratic predecessor. It’s not even close… On average, job growth under Democrats is more than twice that under Republicans.
Whatever benchmark you use, the difference is dramatic. Since Truman was elected in 1948, 53.2 million new jobs were created during the 24 years when Democrats held The White House, and 38.3 million were created during the 36 years of Republican administrations.”
–Source: The Bureau of Labor Statistics, seasonally adjusted non-farm payrolls.
LINK.
DAR
This fellow examines the last 13 presidents. He also examines the record during Congress. Democratic Presidents hold the top six slots.
You might try adjusting your beliefs to be in accord with reality and truth rather than struggle to deny reality. It’s much easier and more rewarding in the end.
Bigd: “[Bush] received a recession… had to deal with 9/11”>>
DAR
A mild one. He was in for eight years! And it got even worse at the end. Lame excuse for the WPE.
D.