Comments on: In God We Trust http://www.onebigdog.net/in-god-we-trust/ "Let that be a lesson to you, boys and girls. Don't ever argue with the Big Dog because the Big Dog is always right" Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:58:36 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Blake http://www.onebigdog.net/in-god-we-trust/comment-page-1/#comment-133966 Blake Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:37:54 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=7116#comment-133966 AS I said before, this was to honor a man who was a Christian, but the purpose was to honor him, and get so tired of this small, but irritating minority who feel that their poor, wounded feelings deserve ascendency over the majority of us who, frankly, do not give a damn about you and your perceived "feelings", which you want to impose on others. How bogus can you be? AS I said before, this was to honor a man who was a Christian, but the purpose was to honor him, and get so tired of this small, but irritating minority who feel that their poor, wounded feelings deserve ascendency over the majority of us who, frankly, do not give a damn about you and your perceived “feelings”, which you want to impose on others. How bogus can you be?

]]> By: Savonarola http://www.onebigdog.net/in-god-we-trust/comment-page-1/#comment-133964 Savonarola Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:05:50 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=7116#comment-133964 BLAKE as it was on public right of way, and not on city property SAV This doesn't pass the smell test. The city ridding itself of this square yard of land for the purpose of erecting a religious monument isn't allowed, precisely because it's a directed effort to support the religious monument. Case law has determined and supported this conclusion. And for you -- Mr. "OMG It's A Muslim Crescent!" -- to not grasp this is... well, perfectly expected, actually. BLAKE
as it was on public right of way, and not on city property

SAV
This doesn’t pass the smell test. The city ridding itself of this square yard of land for the purpose of erecting a religious monument isn’t allowed, precisely because it’s a directed effort to support the religious monument. Case law has determined and supported this conclusion.
And for you — Mr. “OMG It’s A Muslim Crescent!” — to not grasp this is… well, perfectly expected, actually.

]]> By: Blake http://www.onebigdog.net/in-god-we-trust/comment-page-1/#comment-133901 Blake Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:50:38 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=7116#comment-133901 Who has called who names? You and D regularly call both Dog and me "idiots" and "morons" almost every time you comment here, something I wouldn't put up with on a face to face basis, so it's a good thing I hate to travel, or you might well be in trouble. Time was, I would be looking you up, and schooling you. Who has called who names? You and D regularly call both Dog and me “idiots” and “morons” almost every time you comment here, something I wouldn’t put up with on a face to face basis, so it’s a good thing I hate to travel, or you might well be in trouble.
Time was, I would be looking you up, and schooling you.

]]> By: Blake http://www.onebigdog.net/in-god-we-trust/comment-page-1/#comment-133900 Blake Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:43:27 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=7116#comment-133900 The example was an attempt to honor a MAN who had done some good in this world- the fact that a Bible was a part of the monument should have been irrelevant, as it was on public right of way, and not on city property- the city gave up not because they knew they would lose, but just because of the expenses that would have incurred. This is an example of the ALU bullying when the offended party could have just turned her head and gone her way. As a side note, she received so much notoriety that she lost her business and had to move. At least there is some justice in this world. The example was an attempt to honor a MAN who had done some good in this world- the fact that a Bible was a part of the monument should have been irrelevant, as it was on public right of way, and not on city property- the city gave up not because they knew they would lose, but just because of the expenses that would have incurred.
This is an example of the ALU bullying when the offended party could have just turned her head and gone her way.
As a side note, she received so much notoriety that she lost her business and had to move. At least there is some justice in this world.

]]> By: Darrel http://www.onebigdog.net/in-god-we-trust/comment-page-1/#comment-133888 Darrel Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:55:16 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=7116#comment-133888 BLK: "I have no learning disorder, but free thinker is...>> DAR If you don't have a learning disorder, why can't you learn that "freethinker" is one word, not two? D. BLK: “I have no learning disorder, but free thinker is…>>

DAR
If you don’t have a learning disorder, why can’t you learn that “freethinker” is one word, not two?

D.

]]> By: Darrel http://www.onebigdog.net/in-god-we-trust/comment-page-1/#comment-133887 Darrel Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:53:38 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=7116#comment-133887 Bigd: So when Tina Fey said that she could see Russia from her house (as Palin) that was verbatim?>> DAR No, that was comic hyperbole. The Tina Fey skit was so successful they had several of them. One of them was a verbatim recital of some interview/speech she did. The "I can see Russia from my house" bit was not the verbatim one. BIGD: As I recall, and as the [v]ideo will show, Palin said you could see Russia from Alaska. That is a true statement.>> DAR Yes it is. People ridiculed it because it was in the context of her answering a question about her foreign policy experience. Hence the Tina Fey exaggeration/quip. See below. D. -------------- "They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska." (Asked by ABC's Charles Gibson "what insight into Russian actions" the proximity of Alaska provides her, September 11, 2008.) "Well, it certainly does, because our, our next-door neighbors are foreign countries, there in the state that I am the executive of... We have trade missions back and forth, we do. It's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia. As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there, they are right next to our state." (Asked by CBS' Katie Couric to explain her foreign policy credentials, especially regarding Russia, September 25, 2008.) http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/sarah-palins-greatest-hits Bigd: So when Tina Fey said that she could see Russia from her house (as Palin) that was verbatim?>>

DAR
No, that was comic hyperbole. The Tina Fey skit was so successful they had several of them. One of them was a verbatim recital of some interview/speech she did. The “I can see Russia from my house” bit was not the verbatim one.

BIGD: As I recall, and as the [v]ideo will show, Palin said you could see Russia from Alaska. That is a true statement.>>

DAR
Yes it is. People ridiculed it because it was in the context of her answering a question about her foreign policy experience. Hence the Tina Fey exaggeration/quip.

See below.

D.
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“They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.” (Asked by ABC’s Charles Gibson “what insight into Russian actions” the proximity of Alaska provides her, September 11, 2008.)

“Well, it certainly does, because our, our next-door neighbors are foreign countries, there in the state that I am the executive of… We have trade missions back and forth, we do. It’s very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia. As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where do they go? It’s Alaska. It’s just right over the border. It is from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there, they are right next to our state.” (Asked by CBS’ Katie Couric to explain her foreign policy credentials, especially regarding Russia, September 25, 2008.)

http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/sarah-palins-greatest-hits

]]> By: Darrel http://www.onebigdog.net/in-god-we-trust/comment-page-1/#comment-133886 Darrel Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:42:19 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=7116#comment-133886 BLK: “The ACLU violates the Constitution every day by attempting to prohibit various and sundry Christian symbols from being displayed.”>> DAR (said) Notice you don’t give a single specific example.>> BLK (new) "you wanted an example of the ACLU prohibiting [s]ymbols? Google William Mosher, the founder of the Star of Hope, a charitable institution based in Houston Texas- To honor Mr. Mosher, the city gave the Star of Hope one square yard of concrete on the sidewalk in front of City Hall, where the Star of Hope erected a stele with an insert at the top, wherein rested a Bible in a glass case.>> DAR Thanks for providing the example. Their action was clearly unconstitutional and a government endorsement of religion. Can't do that. You said: "The ACLU violates the Constitution." No, they work to have the constitution upheld. The city folded because they knew they would lose. The precedent is clear. The government mustn't be favoring any religion. Putting a religious display on government grounds/property (or doing novel procedures to try and get around that) is not neutral, it's endorsement. See the Lemon Test. If this were a display devoted to honoring one of the thousands of gods you don't believe in, I think the scales may be lifted from your eyes and you might be able to see the problem. Best for government to stay out of the religion business. See world history. You're a consistent atheist with regard to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deities" rel="nofollow">all of those other gods</a>. I'm just wee bit more consistent than you. I don't make an exception for that last one. D. BLK: “The ACLU violates the Constitution every day by attempting to prohibit various and sundry Christian symbols from being displayed.”>>

DAR (said)
Notice you don’t give a single specific example.>>

BLK (new) “you wanted an example of the ACLU prohibiting [s]ymbols? Google William Mosher, the founder of the Star of Hope, a charitable institution based in Houston
Texas- To honor Mr. Mosher, the city gave the Star of Hope one square yard of concrete on the sidewalk in front of City Hall, where the Star of Hope erected a stele with an insert at the top, wherein rested a Bible in a glass case.>>

DAR
Thanks for providing the example. Their action was clearly unconstitutional and a government endorsement of religion. Can’t do that.

You said: “The ACLU violates the Constitution.” No, they work to have the constitution upheld. The city folded because they knew they would lose. The precedent is clear. The government mustn’t be favoring any religion. Putting a religious display on government grounds/property (or doing novel procedures to try and get around that) is not neutral, it’s endorsement. See the Lemon Test.

If this were a display devoted to honoring one of the thousands of gods you don’t believe in, I think the scales may be lifted from your eyes and you might be able to see the problem. Best for government to stay out of the religion business. See world history.

You’re a consistent atheist with regard to all of those other gods. I’m just wee bit more consistent than you. I don’t make an exception for that last one.

D.

]]> By: Big Dog http://www.onebigdog.net/in-god-we-trust/comment-page-1/#comment-133856 Big Dog Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:04:12 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=7116#comment-133856 So when Tina Fey said that she could see Russia from her house (as Palin) that was verbatim? As I recall, and as the cideo will show, Palin said you could see Russia from Alaska. That is a true statement. So when Tina Fey said that she could see Russia from her house (as Palin) that was verbatim? As I recall, and as the cideo will show, Palin said you could see Russia from Alaska. That is a true statement.

]]> By: Blake http://www.onebigdog.net/in-god-we-trust/comment-page-1/#comment-133830 Blake Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:38:16 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=7116#comment-133830 I have no learning disorder, but free thinker is, in your case, (and that of Savvie's) an oxymoron, you have the ego, but not the chops. I have no learning disorder, but free thinker is, in your case, (and that of Savvie’s) an oxymoron, you have the ego, but not the chops.

]]> By: Blake http://www.onebigdog.net/in-god-we-trust/comment-page-1/#comment-133829 Blake Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:32:01 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=7116#comment-133829 Darrel- you wanted an example of the ACLU prohibiting ymbols? Google William Mosher, the founder of the Star of Hope, a charitable institution based in Houston Texas- To honor Mr. Mosher, the city gave the Star of Hope one square yard of concrete on the sidewalk in front of City Hall, where the Star of Hope erected a stele with an insert at the top, wherein rested a Bible in a glass case. This Bible's pages were turned every day by a volunteer. Well, the ACLU and one person did not like to see the monument to Mr. Mosher, so they sued to have it removed, instead of turning their head so they wouldn't be offended- how arrogant of them. The city relented, so they wouldn't get tangled in a lawsuit- how cowardly of them. Darrel- you wanted an example of the ACLU prohibiting ymbols? Google William Mosher, the founder of the Star of Hope, a charitable institution based in Houston
Texas- To honor Mr. Mosher, the city gave the Star of Hope one square yard of concrete on the sidewalk in front of City Hall, where the Star of Hope erected a stele with an insert at the top, wherein rested a Bible in a glass case. This Bible’s pages were turned every day by a volunteer.
Well, the ACLU and one person did not like to see the monument to Mr. Mosher, so they sued to have it removed, instead of turning their head so they wouldn’t be offended- how arrogant of them. The city relented, so they wouldn’t get tangled in a lawsuit- how cowardly of them.

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