That is an absolute load of crap.

DAR
Of course. But it proves that in science the word “theory” is used in a way that is not incompatible with “fact.” Try not to make this mistake again.

VIC: Evolution has never been proven as fact.>>

DAR
Actually it has, 10,000 times over. The modern American ignoramus doesn’t believe in evolution for one of two reasons:

a) they don’t understand it, complete ignorance

b) they won’t allow themselves to believe it because they think it conflicts with their religious beliefs.

Often both. I can help you with the first, not so much the second.

VIC: Atheism is a religion.>>

DAR
Atheism is the lack of a belief in a god. That’s it. You are an atheist with regard to thousands of gods. I just don’t make an exception for that last one. This is because they all have the same level of evidence for them. None. Best to be consistent.

D.
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“OK, if there is no God, who changes the water?” –one goldfish to another

DAR
Cosmology is a young science. 14 lines of evidence is a good start. And there is no competition. What do you have? Nothing.

VIC: There is plenty of evidence that God exists…>>

DAR
Okay, let’s see just a tiny bit of it.

VIC: Far be it from me to try and argue with you either.>>

DAR
As you say while arguing with me.

VIC: I think I said before time will tell who is right here.>>

DAR
Promises promises.

VIC: There is a word that comes after the word evolution… the word THEORY.>>

DAR
This is a common misunderstanding and we covered it in June. Perhaps you weren’t here.

The idea that the earth goes around the sun is a scientific “theory,” and it’s also fact. Do you believe the sun goes around the earth or do you think their is some question about that?

“Theories” are actually the *goal* of science. Because theories, in science, tell us, explain to us, how things work (“laws” just tell us how things are).

The idea that the earth goes around the sun is a theory, and a fact. Just like evolution. There has been no scientific challenge to evolution for at least 130 years. There is no other game in town. Our knowledge about cosmology is much younger and more tenuous than the thousands of lines of evidence for evolution, but again, it’s the only game in town. No one has any good evidence contradicting the lines of evidence I provided (there are lots of questions about some of them). This is why the BB is currently accepted as the prevailing theory.

What have you got?

D.
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“Many theories have become established as fact. Doctors are certain of germ theory–that various germs cause a number of ailments. Astronomers are certain of the heliocentric theory of the solar system–the sun, not the earth, is the center of the solar system. Geologists are certain of the plate tectonic theory–that continents and sea floor are moving on large chunks of the earth’s crust. And biologists are certain that all living things share a common ancestor.”

Victoria, science uses the word “theory” in a specialized way which is entirely compatible with “fact.” This is an important thing to know if you are going to talk about science.

I read your link and that is the best you can come up with. That is very pathetic and you want to put me down for believing “In the beginning God created…..”
“The point is that faith, even moderate faith, is pernicious because it teaches that believing something without evidence is a virtue.” –
There is plenty of evidence that God exists–you just don’t want to face it. You would rather believe that everything is here by chance or somehow evolved without there being an intelligent designer. Far be it from me to try and argue with you either. I think I said before time will tell who is right here. There is a word that comes after the word evolution and the words big bang which all you atheistic mockers completely ignore and that is the word THEORY. Hey, I am just saying…..

DAR
So in the end, the foundation of your incredibly weak case is found to be based upon the thin reed of “could not rule out.” While we can’t “rule out” that a teapot is in orbit around Pluto, this is hardly a reason to believe one is.

D.

DAR
God [assumption] said [assumption] something and this initiated [assumption] something?

Any support for those assumptions? I would like to see it.

The less unsupported assumptions (Occam’s Razor), the better.

D.
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“All religions die of one disease, that of being found out.” –John Morley