I know AID’s is spread not just with homosexuals but lets start with the most at risk group.

But before we go any further, let’s be clear what the Military Law says. UCMJ states “Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration , however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense.”

So any military service member, straight or gay, would be guilty of sodomy if they engaged in oral sex or anal sex. They might also be guilty if they enagaged in sex in any position other than the missionary position. In order for the law to be applied fairly, any person who engaged in one of those acts must be discharged. In addition, any person who talked about engaging in those activities would need to be discharged as well. Because gay and lesbian soldiers are discharged for acknowledging that they are gay, no sexual act is necessary.

But I want to go back to the reasons you were applauding Gen Pace. You applauded his stance based on his morality and his religious teaching. If this is to be the basis on which we decide military law, ie don’t repeal don’t ask, don’t tell, then intellectual honesty would demand that all of the activities Gen Pace finds immoral must be made illegal.

You are familiar with intellectual honesty, aren’t you?

As for your refences to Rep. Foley and Sen Craig, I astonished that you would compare uniformed soldier whose lives are at risk every day defending our country to a congressman who preyed on pages or a senator who illegally solicited sex in a public men’s room. The reference is especially despicable in a time of war.

Perhaps i shouldn’t be surprised considering the fact that you clearly express the belief that two adults of the same gender engaging in sex, is bigger issue in our society than murder.

In closing let me ask you a question. Who would Jesus murder(WWJM) ?

I would just like to add just one thing. THE GOVERNMENT DID NOT GIVE US OUR RIGHTS. GOD DID. For if the government had indeed given us our rights, then they surely could take them away, no?…

Harkin stood up for no one, he merely demonstrated that he can pander. Where was Harkin standing up for Foley’s right to have make sexually suggestive comments to pages or Craig’s right to tap his feet in the bathroom?

The fact is, Pace has an opinion and it happens to be supported by the law. Harkin does not like the law so he will change it and further erode the moral fabric of this society.

It is amazing that people will defend this kind of thing and then pitch a hissy fit when a soldier is accused of a murder or treats some terrorist badly. Then all of the sudden people have moral values. How can we expect our troops or our children to have morals when we as a society continue to fight to get rid of all that is decent?

Pace did not change his mind and he was not bullied into another opinion. I wonder how Harkin will do if a huge group of people threaten to vote him out for a position he has taken? He will change it, of course.

You show such contempt for Harkin for standing up for all people and praise Pace for standing by his religious teachings. That’s fine. But at least be intellectually honest and apply that “moral” standard to everyone of our members of the armed services.

Lastly, by your standards having a religious objection to someone justifies personal and professional biogtry. Since the Mormon church did not view blacks as full human beings until 1985, would a mormon have been justified in 1982 for being personally and professional bigoted towards black soldiers?

If religous belief justifies bigotry then why would they?

Republish your first post and relive the memories!
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There is still one question, and to my dismay, no one seems to be asking it. It is:

“Did David Shuster and MSNBC give any thought to the family of Private Bohannon, and what using him as a tool to play ‘gotcha’ with a US Representative would d…

It is just so amazing how really ignorant they are. And elite they think they are. I think they all have mental disorders.