Comments on: From Global Warming To Ice Age http://www.onebigdog.net/from-global-warming-to-ice-age/ "Let that be a lesson to you, boys and girls. Don't ever argue with the Big Dog because the Big Dog is always right" Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:25:29 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Big Dog http://www.onebigdog.net/from-global-warming-to-ice-age/comment-page-1/#comment-147255 Big Dog Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:19:06 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8764#comment-147255 Hey Charlie, go back real far in time and explain high CO2 levels and high temperatures in cycles. Don't concentrate on a short period. We are seeing this hoax unravel before our eyes. Hey Charlie, go back real far in time and explain high CO2 levels and high temperatures in cycles. Don’t concentrate on a short period.

We are seeing this hoax unravel before our eyes.

]]> By: Charlie H http://www.onebigdog.net/from-global-warming-to-ice-age/comment-page-1/#comment-147245 Charlie H Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:24:48 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8764#comment-147245 The context in which Hansen writes is in answer to current Denialist BS, which is focussed on the fact that it's cold outside. Check your Denialist BS buddies's sites and count the posts that involve references to current weather conditions. The "Medieval Warm Period" and BS about "Climate Optimums" of warmer temps are just that... BS. Further, the principal concern among biologists with respect to climate change isn't the fact of climate change... they're fully on board with that idea, it's one of the things that drives evolution... it's the pace of change. A period of rapid, sustained increase in temps is going to disrupt the environment and drive species into extinction faster than we can adapt. Insects and other forms that breed rapidly (like bacteria) will be better able to keep pace with change than the species we generally find more useful and friendly. Of course, there's the purely practical concerns that increasing the temps of America's breadbasket by 2degC or so might make it much more difficult to grow our cereal crops and the possibility that this would disrupt weather patterns enough to make entirely impossible to grow things. Balanced against that is the possibility that desert areas might develop more fertility but it seems that the pace of desertification is faster than the conversion of desert to arable land. The context in which Hansen writes is in answer to current Denialist BS, which is focussed on the fact that it’s cold outside. Check your Denialist BS buddies’s sites and count the posts that involve references to current weather conditions.

The “Medieval Warm Period” and BS about “Climate Optimums” of warmer temps are just that… BS.

Further, the principal concern among biologists with respect to climate change isn’t the fact of climate change… they’re fully on board with that idea, it’s one of the things that drives evolution… it’s the pace of change. A period of rapid, sustained increase in temps is going to disrupt the environment and drive species into extinction faster than we can adapt.

Insects and other forms that breed rapidly (like bacteria) will be better able to keep pace with change than the species we generally find more useful and friendly.

Of course, there’s the purely practical concerns that increasing the temps of America’s breadbasket by 2degC or so might make it much more difficult to grow our cereal crops and the possibility that this would disrupt weather patterns enough to make entirely impossible to grow things.

Balanced against that is the possibility that desert areas might develop more fertility but it seems that the pace of desertification is faster than the conversion of desert to arable land.

]]> By: Big Dog http://www.onebigdog.net/from-global-warming-to-ice-age/comment-page-1/#comment-147229 Big Dog Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:53:14 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8764#comment-147229 You have to love a piece that starts out saying its cold, compared to what our recent memory and then descibes climate over the past 130 years and explains why a certain period of time is the best baseline when going back tens of thousands of years gives more accurate pictures of the cyclic nature of the planet. So rephrase the question. Its warm but compared to what, our recent memory? Well yes, the past 130 years or so. How about the past ten thousand or the past 500,000? How does it look then? You have to love a piece that starts out saying its cold, compared to what our recent memory and then descibes climate over the past 130 years and explains why a certain period of time is the best baseline when going back tens of thousands of years gives more accurate pictures of the cyclic nature of the planet.

So rephrase the question. Its warm but compared to what, our recent memory?

Well yes, the past 130 years or so. How about the past ten thousand or the past 500,000? How does it look then?

]]> By: Charlie H http://www.onebigdog.net/from-global-warming-to-ice-age/comment-page-1/#comment-147226 Charlie H Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:43:18 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8764#comment-147226 "Right now it is freezing out and the ice age appears to be here" No duh. It's winter: http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2010/20100127_TemperatureFinal.pdf By the way, there's a few fabulous pictures of what a real winter is like in that report. “Right now it is freezing out and the ice age appears to be here”

No duh. It’s winter:

http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2010/20100127_TemperatureFinal.pdf

By the way, there’s a few fabulous pictures of what a real winter is like in that report.

]]> By: Big Dog http://www.onebigdog.net/from-global-warming-to-ice-age/comment-page-1/#comment-146258 Big Dog Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:47:36 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8764#comment-146258 I am waiting because Vlad Putin has chimed in and I know how much liberals love the man and how Obama will do whatever he wants. Putin <a href="http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=14708752&PageNum=0" rel="nofollow">is worried</a> about the cooling so I need to see what he has to say. I am waiting because Vlad Putin has chimed in and I know how much liberals love the man and how Obama will do whatever he wants.

Putin is worried about the cooling so I need to see what he has to say.

]]> By: Adam http://www.onebigdog.net/from-global-warming-to-ice-age/comment-page-1/#comment-146254 Adam Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:12:19 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8764#comment-146254 I guess the rule is quickly report any denier garbage right away, but wait and see when it comes to admitting you were duped again. I won't hold my breath waiting for you to issue any said correction. I guess the rule is quickly report any denier garbage right away, but wait and see when it comes to admitting you were duped again. I won’t hold my breath waiting for you to issue any said correction.

]]> By: Blake http://www.onebigdog.net/from-global-warming-to-ice-age/comment-page-1/#comment-146239 Blake Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:21:55 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8764#comment-146239 I don't know- perhaps Charlie's pelt might do- no, I don't want to spend eternity in a hypocrite's skin- forget it. I don’t know- perhaps Charlie’s pelt might do- no, I don’t want to spend eternity in a hypocrite’s skin- forget it.

]]> By: Blake http://www.onebigdog.net/from-global-warming-to-ice-age/comment-page-1/#comment-146237 Blake Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:19:52 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8764#comment-146237 Obviously you do- otherwise you would drop all this "warming" drivel, and wise up. It's not brain surgery here. When I die, I want to be buried in a Polar Bear pelt- there's plenty of them- they won't miss one. I would go with the Harp seal, but they aren't snuggly enough, and I am entitled to the pelt, because "I am good enough, smart enough, and darn it, people like me." Obviously you do- otherwise you would drop all this “warming” drivel, and wise up.
It’s not brain surgery here.
When I die, I want to be buried in a Polar Bear pelt- there’s plenty of them- they won’t miss one.
I would go with the Harp seal, but they aren’t snuggly enough, and I am entitled to the pelt, because “I am good enough, smart enough, and darn it, people like me.”

]]> By: Big Dog http://www.onebigdog.net/from-global-warming-to-ice-age/comment-page-1/#comment-146205 Big Dog Wed, 13 Jan 2010 00:27:18 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8764#comment-146205 I have to wait and see before I make a correction. Right now it is freezing out and the ice age appears to be here. Global warming is a hoax. Morons. I have to wait and see before I make a correction. Right now it is freezing out and the ice age appears to be here.

Global warming is a hoax.

Morons.

]]> By: Darrel http://www.onebigdog.net/from-global-warming-to-ice-age/comment-page-1/#comment-146203 Darrel Wed, 13 Jan 2010 00:16:24 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8764#comment-146203 Good job. I wonder if Bigd will make a correction. That's what an honest person would do. D. --------------- "...falsehood-filled Daily Mail article on global cooling that utterly misquotes, misrepresents work of Mojib Latif and NSIDC" Good job.

I wonder if Bigd will make a correction. That’s what an honest person would do.

D.
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“…falsehood-filled Daily Mail article on global cooling that utterly misquotes, misrepresents work of Mojib Latif and NSIDC”

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