Comments on: Freedom of Choice http://www.onebigdog.net/freedom-of-choice/ "Let that be a lesson to you, boys and girls. Don't ever argue with the Big Dog because the Big Dog is always right" Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:25:29 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Blake http://www.onebigdog.net/freedom-of-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-130986 Blake Fri, 29 May 2009 11:31:26 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=6616#comment-130986 As you have pointed out, we can't compel Cal. to act intelligent, any more than I can explain logic to you- there's more oil than yo think- I agree that oil is a finite resource, but to NOT use the existing technology when it is in our backyard is stupid, no other word for it. As you have pointed out, we can’t compel Cal. to act intelligent, any more than I can explain logic to you- there’s more oil than yo think- I agree that oil is a finite resource, but to NOT use the existing technology when it is in our backyard is stupid, no other word for it.

]]> By: Darrel http://www.onebigdog.net/freedom-of-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-130973 Darrel Fri, 29 May 2009 05:10:56 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=6616#comment-130973 You still didn't answer the question. Should Texas start a unilateral trade war and not sell oil to California? That would be really stupid and wouldn't accomplish anything because of world markets (and isn't going to happen). Or should the Fed step in and make California drill against their will? So much for states rights eh? Those are your choices. Why won't you decide? Neither matters much. The US doesn't have much oil left. Keep that truck running. Your grandchildren will be proud of such behavior. When did waste and excess become a patriotic thing to do? It's profoundly against the interest of the country which would seem to make it most unpatriotic. You still didn’t answer the question.

Should Texas start a unilateral trade war and not sell oil to California? That would be really stupid and wouldn’t accomplish anything because of world markets (and isn’t going to happen).

Or should the Fed step in and make California drill against their will?

So much for states rights eh?

Those are your choices. Why won’t you decide?

Neither matters much. The US doesn’t have much oil left. Keep that truck running. Your grandchildren will be proud of such behavior.

When did waste and excess become a patriotic thing to do? It’s profoundly against the interest of the country which would seem to make it most unpatriotic.

]]> By: Big Dog http://www.onebigdog.net/freedom-of-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-130808 Big Dog Tue, 26 May 2009 22:15:45 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=6616#comment-130808 It is foolish for individual states to have different fuel standards and that is why it was rejected. The auto companies can't do things right now without having to worry about making different standards. I know the argument is to have them make all to CA standards. What gives CA the right to dictate to the rest of us. If I owned an auto company it would cost a lot more to buy a car there than elsewhere to recoup costs, if I sold them there at all. It is foolish for individual states to have different fuel standards and that is why it was rejected. The auto companies can’t do things right now without having to worry about making different standards. I know the argument is to have them make all to CA standards. What gives CA the right to dictate to the rest of us.

If I owned an auto company it would cost a lot more to buy a car there than elsewhere to recoup costs, if I sold them there at all.

]]> By: Blake http://www.onebigdog.net/freedom-of-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-130802 Blake Tue, 26 May 2009 16:52:39 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=6616#comment-130802 Well, I will ponder your words as I wander aimlessly around the countryside in my carbon- emitting pickup, with no where particular in mind, just cruising, because I can. Well, I will ponder your words as I wander aimlessly around the countryside in my carbon- emitting pickup, with no where particular in mind, just cruising, because I can.

]]> By: Darrel http://www.onebigdog.net/freedom-of-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-130800 Darrel Tue, 26 May 2009 15:23:00 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=6616#comment-130800 Oil is a very fluid commodity Blake, traded worldwide. Saying "Just don't sell them the oil" is so silly it's not possible to make fun of it. California tried to raise their efficiency standards years ago. Bush and Co. wouldn't let them. How bizarre. Obama is changing that. So now we will have more efficient vehicles. D. ---------------- Q Does the President believe that, given the amount of energy Americans consume per capita, how much it exceeds any other citizen in any other country in the world, does the President believe we need to correct our lifestyles to address the energy problem? MR. FLEISCHER: "That's a big no. The President believes that it's an American way of life, and that it should be the goal of policy makers to protect the American way of life. The American way of life is a blessed one. And we have a bounty of resources in this country. What we need to do is make certain that we're able to get those resources in an efficient way. . ." --Ari Fleischer, Press briefing, May 7, 2001 Oil is a very fluid commodity Blake, traded worldwide. Saying “Just don’t sell them the oil” is so silly it’s not possible to make fun of it.

California tried to raise their efficiency standards years ago. Bush and Co. wouldn’t let them. How bizarre.

Obama is changing that. So now we will have more efficient vehicles.

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Q Does the President believe that, given the amount of energy Americans consume per capita, how much it exceeds any other citizen in any other country in the world, does the President believe we need to correct our lifestyles to address the energy problem?

MR. FLEISCHER: “That’s a big no. The President believes that it’s an American way of life, and that it should be the goal of policy makers to protect the American way of life. The American way of life is a blessed one. And we have a bounty of resources in this country. What we need to do is make certain that we’re able to get those resources in an efficient way. . .”

–Ari Fleischer, Press briefing, May 7, 2001

]]> By: Blake http://www.onebigdog.net/freedom-of-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-130792 Blake Tue, 26 May 2009 11:40:38 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=6616#comment-130792 Just don't sell them the oil. If they want to use their legs and walk, let them. But until they want to participate in our country, perhaps they should not receive the benefits either. Just don’t sell them the oil. If they want to use their legs and walk, let them. But until they want to participate in our country, perhaps they should not receive the benefits either.

]]> By: Darrel http://www.onebigdog.net/freedom-of-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-130772 Darrel Tue, 26 May 2009 03:05:56 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=6616#comment-130772 You didn't answer the question. You didn’t answer the question.

]]> By: Blake http://www.onebigdog.net/freedom-of-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-130769 Blake Mon, 25 May 2009 23:03:25 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=6616#comment-130769 If they want our oil, they should do some of the heavy lifting- I despise the liberal "it's ok to use Texas' oil, but WE don't want this in our backyard- Hypocrites. If they want our oil, they should do some of the heavy lifting- I despise the liberal “it’s ok to use Texas’ oil, but WE don’t want this in our backyard- Hypocrites.

]]> By: Darrel http://www.onebigdog.net/freedom-of-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-130763 Darrel Mon, 25 May 2009 21:27:47 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=6616#comment-130763 California doesn't want offshore oil rigs (yet, they may at $150 per barrel). Who should overrule them? California doesn’t want offshore oil rigs (yet, they may at $150 per barrel).

Who should overrule them?

]]> By: Blake http://www.onebigdog.net/freedom-of-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-130719 Blake Mon, 25 May 2009 16:17:16 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=6616#comment-130719 The problem with that, D, is that it takes some lead time to get rigs up and running. First you have to order the rigs- they don't have a Rigs r Us anywhere- then tow it to the site, and this would probably mean transiting the Panama Canal- then set up, and drill. But before that, there have to be bids on the sites, and the key is location, location, location. Right now we don't even have a bidding process, and all this takes time. not to mention the surveys, which were halted in the '80s. There might be even more oil than we know, because we have to use the info from the 80s to draw our conclusions. The problem with that, D, is that it takes some lead time to get rigs up and running. First you have to order the rigs- they don’t have a Rigs r Us anywhere- then tow it to the site, and this would probably mean transiting the Panama Canal- then set up, and drill. But before that, there have to be bids on the sites, and the key is location, location, location.
Right now we don’t even have a bidding process, and all this takes time. not to mention the surveys, which were halted in the ’80s.
There might be even more oil than we know, because we have to use the info from the 80s to draw our conclusions.

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