FBI “Finds” Terrorist

Now, I have to tell you, I’m not big on government conspiracies. Seriously, most of the time I don’t believe the crazy theories. Of course, what’s crazy or not is certainly open to interpretation. But I have to tell you, when I read this news about the “Somali-born teen,” I started to wonder.

I read carefully into the story, and I’m not sure I could find any crimes. Well, other than those committed by government, of course. And the strangest line of all is the now-standard FBI press release: “the public was never in danger, authorities said.”

Read the story carefully. The FBI provided everything. They provided the tip. They provided the fake explosives. The FBI provided the van. They provided undercover agents. The helped with the planning that was undertaken “without any instruction from a foreign terrorist organization.” The FBI even provided a test bomb that they detonated.

In other words, this 15-year old just showed up when he was asked to. On his own, it appears quite unlikely that this kid could have gotten any bombs, detonators, or anything to bomb anyone. But when the FBI gave him ideas, gave him supplies, provided him with secret agents, bombs, fake bombs, and a van, the kid says, “Ok, cool.” Then the kid goes to jail for life.

While I’m well aware that many Muslims do want to destroy America, this is yet another case where it certainly appears to me that the FBI spent millions of dollars just to make themselves look like they’re catching the evil bad guys.

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7 Responses to “FBI “Finds” Terrorist”

  1. Darrel says:

    OG: “I read carefully into the story,”>>

    You read it carefully?

    OG: “and I’m not sure I could find any crimes.”>>

    The first sentence of your article says he:

    “…plotted “a spectacular show” of terrorism for months, saying he didn’t mind that children would die if he bombed a crowded Christmas tree-lighting ceremony”>>

    You don’t see a crime there Ogre?

    OG: “other than those committed by government,”

    What crimes did the government commit Ogre?

    OG: “The FBI provided everything.”

    Yes, but the fellow in question provided the terrorist.

    OG: “…planning that was undertaken “without any instruction from a foreign terrorist organization.”>>

    Yes, but the terrorist wannabe didn’t know that. This is called effective law enforcement.

    OG: “…this 15-year old just showed up when he was asked to.”>>

    Your article says he is 19. Good thing you “read it carefully.”

    OG: “when the FBI gave him ideas,”>>

    Did you miss where your article mentioned these ideas he had?

    “The FBI monitored Mohamud’s e-mail and found that he was in contact with people overseas, asking how he could travel to Pakistan and join the fight for jihad,…”

    “Mohamud was warned several times about the seriousness of his plan, that women and children could be killed, and that he could back out. But he told agents: “Since I was 15 I thought about all this” and “It’s gonna be a fireworks show … a spectacular show.”

    OG: “Then the kid goes to jail for life.”>>

    Perhaps you should state what you think should be done with terrorists who plan and plot to set off bombs in public places for the purpose of killing American civilians.

    Bigd, where on earth did you find this fellow?

    D.

    • Big Dog says:

      Ogre is a good friend who believes in freedom. I worry as well about the entrapment aspect of these sting operations. Is the FBI doing its job or is it enticing people who are predisposed and then snaring them to show what a good job they are doing. It is unlikely this person could have obtained anything he needed to do this job.

      He had bad thoughts about what to do. As far as I know having thoughts about something is not a crime. If it is then you all should shut up about Gitmo because those folks there have thought about killing Americans. There is a difference between a thought and a deed.

  2. Mr. Ogre says:

    I came here for a good argument.

  3. Adam says:

    It is not entrapment just because the person would not have been able to commit the crime without help from the government. If the government only provided the opportunity then they’re in the clear. The government’s story here fits that description of course but the truth of it is for the courts to decide when it goes to trial.

    Maybe it’s just me, but I can’t help but feel had this happened under Bush then Big Dog and others would have touted this as another success but since it’s under Obama then it’s probably just entrapment and showboating by the FBI.

    Of course then there’s also those who think you can only fight terrorism with the US military, laughing off any suggestion that law enforcement plays a role. Nevermind the fact that our biggest successes against terrorism have been law enforcement based and that the war on terrorism has in turn simply created more people willing to kill Americans and our allies wherever we live on the globe.

    • Big Dog says:

      The war on terror has only uncovered more people willing to kill us, not created them. Our troops are killing a lot of folks who would like to do us harm so they are actually reducing the numbers.

      I think there were a few of these with so called domestic groups under Bush and they were opposed as well. I also think we determined it was for the courts to decide. An interesting article on this issue.

    • Big Dog says:

      “Maybe it’s just me, but I can’t help but feel had this happened under Bush then Big Dog and others would have touted this as another success but since it’s under Obama then it’s probably just entrapment and showboating by the FBI.”

      Maybe it is just me but I can’t help but thinking that if they were called the Obama Tax Cuts and not the Bush Tax Cuts they would have been extended by now…

  4. Blake says:

    Perhaps I will believe in the “Obama Administration” and its war on whatever the hell they are calling it today, when the Justice Department and that wimp in charge, Holder, prosecutes the Army private who gave the files to Wikileaks- charge him and prosecute him under the Espionage act, and Assange too, if we are competent enough to find him, but under Holder, I doubt we have the will or the innnate intelligence to to these things.