Comments on: Enforcers At The IRS Harass $10 An Hour Worker http://www.onebigdog.net/enforcers-at-the-irs-harass-10-an-hour-worker/ "Let that be a lesson to you, boys and girls. Don't ever argue with the Big Dog because the Big Dog is always right" Tue, 14 Feb 2012 05:27:03 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Blake http://www.onebigdog.net/enforcers-at-the-irs-harass-10-an-hour-worker/comment-page-1/#comment-144527 Blake Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:25:05 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8458#comment-144527 Adam, a ten dollar an hour worker will never net the IRS anything more than distain, while going after Rangel and many others who actually owe millions could get the IRS millions- I doubt the $10 an hour worker could equal THAT- but then she is not "connected" like Rangel, so she cannot cheat with impunity, as many of the others seem to. Free rides seem to be the domain of the Liberal Progressives- like Kenneth Creamer, who served a stint in prison for defrauding Banks out of millions, and yet, because he is married to a Congresswoman, can get into State dinners, and hobnob with other progressive criminals, all without the onus of being thought of as a criminal and convicted felon. Don't you just smell the hypocrisy? Adam, a ten dollar an hour worker will never net the IRS anything more than distain, while going after Rangel and many others who actually owe millions could get the IRS millions- I doubt the $10 an hour worker could equal THAT- but then she is not “connected” like Rangel, so she cannot cheat with impunity, as many of the others seem to.
Free rides seem to be the domain of the Liberal Progressives- like Kenneth Creamer, who served a stint in prison for defrauding Banks out of millions, and yet, because he is married to a Congresswoman, can get into State dinners, and hobnob with other progressive criminals, all without the onus of being thought of as a criminal and convicted felon. Don’t you just smell the hypocrisy?

]]> By: Adam http://www.onebigdog.net/enforcers-at-the-irs-harass-10-an-hour-worker/comment-page-1/#comment-144467 Adam Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:48:09 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8458#comment-144467 We're talking pretty deep cuts in spending to get to where only 10% taxes wouldn't drive a deficit. I don't know which is more of a pipe dream at this point: Radical changes to the tax code or radical changes to spending. We’re talking pretty deep cuts in spending to get to where only 10% taxes wouldn’t drive a deficit. I don’t know which is more of a pipe dream at this point: Radical changes to the tax code or radical changes to spending.

]]> By: Big Dog http://www.onebigdog.net/enforcers-at-the-irs-harass-10-an-hour-worker/comment-page-1/#comment-144460 Big Dog Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:08:39 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8458#comment-144460 Taxing the rich will never pay the bills but here is an idea, cut spending. And yes, I support defense because it is in the Constitution. Taxing the rich will never pay the bills but here is an idea, cut spending. And yes, I support defense because it is in the Constitution.

]]> By: Darrel http://www.onebigdog.net/enforcers-at-the-irs-harass-10-an-hour-worker/comment-page-1/#comment-144453 Darrel Tue, 08 Dec 2009 03:18:15 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8458#comment-144453 Flat tax proposals are always loved and promoted by the very rich (like Steve Forbes) because they make out like bandits. And they already do (remember the Buffet example where most of his wealth is shielded from high taxes so he pays a very low rate on most of it). The US already has a very high level of inequality when compared with our peer countries and these anti-civilization types want to turn it up even more. Amazing. And this has profound societal results. Consider this excerpt from the book "The Spirit Level: Why More Equal Societies Almost Always Do Better": *** The theory of everything These two British academics argue that almost every social problem, from crime to obesity, stems from one root cause: inequality. ...almost every social problem common in developed societies - reduced life expectancy, child mortality, drugs, crime, homicide rates, mental illness and obesity - has a single root cause: inequality. "It became clear," Wilkinson says, "that countries such as the US, the UK and Portugal, where the top 20% earn seven, eight or nine times more than the lowest 20%, scored noticeably higher on all social problems at every level of society than in countries such as Sweden and Japan, where the differential is only two or three times higher at the top." The statistics came from the World Bank's list of 50 richest countries, but Wilkinson suggests their conclusions apply more broadly. To ensure their findings weren't explainable by cultural differences, they analysed the data from all 50 US states and found the same pattern. In states where income differentials were greatest, so were the social problems and lack of cohesion." http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/mar/12/equality-british-society What kind of mentality does it take for a person to look at the US's situation and say: "hmmm... you know, I think the problem is the rich just don't have enough money. Let's make it so they have more. That would be more fair." Pure lunacy. Thank goodness these nuts are out of power. D. Flat tax proposals are always loved and promoted by the very rich (like Steve Forbes) because they make out like bandits. And they already do (remember the Buffet example where most of his wealth is shielded from high taxes so he pays a very low rate on most of it).

The US already has a very high level of inequality when compared with our peer countries and these anti-civilization types want to turn it up even more. Amazing.

And this has profound societal results. Consider this excerpt from the book “The Spirit Level: Why More Equal Societies Almost Always Do Better”:

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The theory of everything

These two British academics argue that almost every social problem, from crime to obesity, stems from one root cause: inequality.

…almost every social problem common in developed societies – reduced life expectancy, child mortality, drugs, crime, homicide rates, mental illness and obesity – has a single root cause: inequality.

“It became clear,” Wilkinson says, “that countries such as the US, the UK and Portugal, where the top 20% earn seven, eight or nine times more than the lowest 20%, scored noticeably higher on all social problems at every level of society than in countries such as Sweden and Japan, where the differential is only two or three times higher at the top.”

The statistics came from the World Bank’s list of 50 richest countries, but Wilkinson suggests their conclusions apply more broadly. To ensure their findings weren’t explainable by cultural differences, they analysed the data from all 50 US states and found the same pattern. In states where income differentials were greatest, so were the social problems and lack of cohesion.”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/mar/12/equality-british-society

What kind of mentality does it take for a person to look at the US’s situation and say: “hmmm… you know, I think the problem is the rich just don’t have enough money. Let’s make it so they have more. That would be more fair.”

Pure lunacy. Thank goodness these nuts are out of power.

D.

]]> By: Adam http://www.onebigdog.net/enforcers-at-the-irs-harass-10-an-hour-worker/comment-page-1/#comment-144450 Adam Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:59:02 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8458#comment-144450 Why 10%? The government would never have enough revenue. I've seen no flat tax plan go that low and even at the higher rates the flat tax plans create massive deficits. I doubt 10% would even cover defense, one of the few things you tend to support taxes for. Why 10%? The government would never have enough revenue. I’ve seen no flat tax plan go that low and even at the higher rates the flat tax plans create massive deficits. I doubt 10% would even cover defense, one of the few things you tend to support taxes for.

]]> By: Big Dog http://www.onebigdog.net/enforcers-at-the-irs-harass-10-an-hour-worker/comment-page-1/#comment-144448 Big Dog Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:38:07 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8458#comment-144448 20,000 is before deductions but even at that it is 2000 a year and for the 20,000 it is 20,000 a year. 10% for each, the same amount of pain. 20,000 is before deductions but even at that it is 2000 a year and for the 20,000 it is 20,000 a year. 10% for each, the same amount of pain.

]]> By: Adam http://www.onebigdog.net/enforcers-at-the-irs-harass-10-an-hour-worker/comment-page-1/#comment-144445 Adam Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:11:57 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8458#comment-144445 As long as the IRS catches the fish instead of buying them at the store... As long as the IRS catches the fish instead of buying them at the store…

]]> By: Adam http://www.onebigdog.net/enforcers-at-the-irs-harass-10-an-hour-worker/comment-page-1/#comment-144444 Adam Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:11:11 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8458#comment-144444 If you make $20,000 a year like Porcaro you would owe about $4000 to $5000 in taxes. If you made $200,000 like Joe the plumber hopes to make someday then you'd be keeping $160,000 to $150,000 after taxes. I think it's pretty obvious that a flat tax is going to burden the lowest bracket of income earners and it's going to benefit the highest bracket, the exact opposite of our current system. If you make $20,000 a year like Porcaro you would owe about $4000 to $5000 in taxes. If you made $200,000 like Joe the plumber hopes to make someday then you’d be keeping $160,000 to $150,000 after taxes. I think it’s pretty obvious that a flat tax is going to burden the lowest bracket of income earners and it’s going to benefit the highest bracket, the exact opposite of our current system.

]]> By: Big Dog http://www.onebigdog.net/enforcers-at-the-irs-harass-10-an-hour-worker/comment-page-1/#comment-144443 Big Dog Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:06:20 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8458#comment-144443 It was foolish of the IRS. I understand that they would not be the first to receive preferential treatment but that does not make it right. If a cop got caught driving while drunk and the judge said he was free to go because he is a cop we would be outraged, and rightly so. Cops should be held to a higher standard because of what we entrust to them. The same is true for politicians, all of them from all parties. But I agree, the IRS has bigger fish to fry (I know that will mess with your vegan mind). It was foolish of the IRS.

I understand that they would not be the first to receive preferential treatment but that does not make it right. If a cop got caught driving while drunk and the judge said he was free to go because he is a cop we would be outraged, and rightly so.

Cops should be held to a higher standard because of what we entrust to them.

The same is true for politicians, all of them from all parties.

But I agree, the IRS has bigger fish to fry (I know that will mess with your vegan mind).

]]> By: Adam http://www.onebigdog.net/enforcers-at-the-irs-harass-10-an-hour-worker/comment-page-1/#comment-144442 Adam Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:00:03 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8458#comment-144442 Geithner wouldn't be the first politician to get preferential treatment from the government because of his position but it's also not unheard of for the IRS to forgo penalties. They've done it for me several times. "It is one thing to look at returns..." I'm with you on this one. I don't think there's many people out there who think the IRS is perfect and this is definitely stupid. Geithner wouldn’t be the first politician to get preferential treatment from the government because of his position but it’s also not unheard of for the IRS to forgo penalties. They’ve done it for me several times.

“It is one thing to look at returns…”

I’m with you on this one. I don’t think there’s many people out there who think the IRS is perfect and this is definitely stupid.

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