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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Malkin has an email address posted at her site.  Write and ask her without using the comments.  You might be surprised how people respond when you are not publicly making a scene.

Crossing the border is a felony, being caught here is a misdemeanor.  This is ridiculous because we know they committed the felony.  If I rob a bank it is a felony.  Does it make sense to say that it is only a felony if I get caught in the act and that if they catch me walking down the street it is a misdemeanor?

I believe we need to deport the ones we catch who have broken no other laws and put the ones who have broken a law in jail and then deport them when done the sentence.

Our government allows refugees to come here and provides for them.  it is a legal process but has the potential for abuse as in Carter and Cuban refugees that included the population of Castro&#039;s prisons...

We need a sensible approach but ignoring the law is not part of it and rewarding those who got here illegally is insane.  You get more of what you reward.  We have millions of illegals now because of the 1984 bill that Kennedy promised would never require another amnesty.

I have always said to go after employers and the illegal problem will dry up.  Fine them 10 grand an illegal and soon they will not be hiring them.  It is the job of all government employees to report crime.  If they suspect a person is illegal they should report it.  If they do not want to do their job they can find employment elsewhere.

As for illegals reporting crime.  I suspect much of the crime occurs in their neighborhoods and was committed by other illegals.  I also doubt that very many (as a percentage) actually come forward to report these things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malkin has an email address posted at her site.  Write and ask her without using the comments.  You might be surprised how people respond when you are not publicly making a scene.</p>
<p>Crossing the border is a felony, being caught here is a misdemeanor.  This is ridiculous because we know they committed the felony.  If I rob a bank it is a felony.  Does it make sense to say that it is only a felony if I get caught in the act and that if they catch me walking down the street it is a misdemeanor?</p>
<p>I believe we need to deport the ones we catch who have broken no other laws and put the ones who have broken a law in jail and then deport them when done the sentence.</p>
<p>Our government allows refugees to come here and provides for them.  it is a legal process but has the potential for abuse as in Carter and Cuban refugees that included the population of Castro&#8217;s prisons&#8230;</p>
<p>We need a sensible approach but ignoring the law is not part of it and rewarding those who got here illegally is insane.  You get more of what you reward.  We have millions of illegals now because of the 1984 bill that Kennedy promised would never require another amnesty.</p>
<p>I have always said to go after employers and the illegal problem will dry up.  Fine them 10 grand an illegal and soon they will not be hiring them.  It is the job of all government employees to report crime.  If they suspect a person is illegal they should report it.  If they do not want to do their job they can find employment elsewhere.</p>
<p>As for illegals reporting crime.  I suspect much of the crime occurs in their neighborhoods and was committed by other illegals.  I also doubt that very many (as a percentage) actually come forward to report these things.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.onebigdog.net/deported-mother-has-it-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-21472</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 06:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of Filipinos fought with America in WWII (40 years after we subjugated them and made them a colony).  One of these days I&#039;ll try asking Malkin and keep the screen shots for our reference.  I have a sneaking suspicion I&#039;ll be banned without getting a straight answer.

Would you give amnesty to someone fleeing persecution?  We accept such refugees now (look at all of the Vietnamese who came to America) as do most countries.  That&#039;s amnesty.

Should every government employee get additional training by the INS (which now has the way cooler name &quot;ICE&quot; apparently) so they can capture and deport ILLEGALS then?  I&#039;m sure local police, DMV, Social workers, etc. will be really happy to have the additional work piled on them.  they&#039;ll probably have to double the size of their workforce to accomodate the expansion of responsibility.  Ah yes... Big Government.  And law enforcement will appreciate the fact that they will no longer get cooperation in solving crimes if an ILLEGAL witnessed it because the &#039;illegal&#039; will be deported.  Great plan!  That&#039;ll really help the police solve crimes - NOT!

You said:

&quot;I did not call for any concentration camps or imprisonment excpet for those who have broken the law.&quot;

the key word in your statement is that you don&#039;t support concentration camps EXCEPT for those 13,000,000 people who have broken the law, and a misdemeanor at that, if my understanding is correct.  That would mean we&#039;ll somehow hunt down and capture more people than the Germans incarcerated in WWII, in Concentration Camps.  Who&#039;s going to pick our fruits &amp; vegetables when your plan is implemented?  I don&#039;t think America could bring back modern slavery thru the use of prisoners to cover such a manpower shortfall.  

By the way, I don&#039;t recall ever supporting ILLEGALS in the sense you&#039;re implying.  I believe America needs a guest worker program with a path towards citizenship, like other advanced countries have.  You call it amnesty, I call it common sense and practical.

Is your food picked/slaughtered by illegals?  Probably.  So while you may not directly hire an ILLEGAL yourself, you&#039;re already participating in their employment.  Why force it underground?  Just deal with it openly like other countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of Filipinos fought with America in WWII (40 years after we subjugated them and made them a colony).  One of these days I&#8217;ll try asking Malkin and keep the screen shots for our reference.  I have a sneaking suspicion I&#8217;ll be banned without getting a straight answer.</p>
<p>Would you give amnesty to someone fleeing persecution?  We accept such refugees now (look at all of the Vietnamese who came to America) as do most countries.  That&#8217;s amnesty.</p>
<p>Should every government employee get additional training by the INS (which now has the way cooler name &#8220;ICE&#8221; apparently) so they can capture and deport ILLEGALS then?  I&#8217;m sure local police, DMV, Social workers, etc. will be really happy to have the additional work piled on them.  they&#8217;ll probably have to double the size of their workforce to accomodate the expansion of responsibility.  Ah yes&#8230; Big Government.  And law enforcement will appreciate the fact that they will no longer get cooperation in solving crimes if an ILLEGAL witnessed it because the &#8216;illegal&#8217; will be deported.  Great plan!  That&#8217;ll really help the police solve crimes &#8211; NOT!</p>
<p>You said:</p>
<p>&#8220;I did not call for any concentration camps or imprisonment excpet for those who have broken the law.&#8221;</p>
<p>the key word in your statement is that you don&#8217;t support concentration camps EXCEPT for those 13,000,000 people who have broken the law, and a misdemeanor at that, if my understanding is correct.  That would mean we&#8217;ll somehow hunt down and capture more people than the Germans incarcerated in WWII, in Concentration Camps.  Who&#8217;s going to pick our fruits &amp; vegetables when your plan is implemented?  I don&#8217;t think America could bring back modern slavery thru the use of prisoners to cover such a manpower shortfall.  </p>
<p>By the way, I don&#8217;t recall ever supporting ILLEGALS in the sense you&#8217;re implying.  I believe America needs a guest worker program with a path towards citizenship, like other advanced countries have.  You call it amnesty, I call it common sense and practical.</p>
<p>Is your food picked/slaughtered by illegals?  Probably.  So while you may not directly hire an ILLEGAL yourself, you&#8217;re already participating in their employment.  Why force it underground?  Just deal with it openly like other countries.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue of her status has been around for about 2 years and does not seem to have gotten traction.  If you want to know, pop over and ask.  I have been trying to research this and I have found that her grandfather fought in WW II with under one of our generals.  There have been laws on again off again and they indicate that people who fought on our side would be citizens and their families could come as well.  At one time, the Philippines was an American territory so that complicates it as well.

Thos born here and given citizenship do violate the Constitution, despite what the law might say at the time.  How the court interprets something does not change a basic fact that it violates the Constitution.  Like eminent domain ruling in Kelo which violated the Constitution.  It might be the law but it violates what the document says.  It is not contradictory to say the US gave him citizenship in violation of that document because we did.

Once again you are not smart enough.  I did not call for any concentration camps or imprisonment excpet for those who have broken the law.  The ILLEGALS have broken the law and yet you are too deft to see that.

I find it amazing that people who want Bush impeached because he supposedly broke the law and had an illegal war want to reward ILLEGALS for breaking the law (really breaking it).

You are certainly parroting your democratic talking points with the bumper sticker talk.  There are solutions that do not involve amnesty.  I will not support amnesty no matter how much and I will never, ever hire a person who received amnesty.  Is there any question about how I feel little fellow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue of her status has been around for about 2 years and does not seem to have gotten traction.  If you want to know, pop over and ask.  I have been trying to research this and I have found that her grandfather fought in WW II with under one of our generals.  There have been laws on again off again and they indicate that people who fought on our side would be citizens and their families could come as well.  At one time, the Philippines was an American territory so that complicates it as well.</p>
<p>Thos born here and given citizenship do violate the Constitution, despite what the law might say at the time.  How the court interprets something does not change a basic fact that it violates the Constitution.  Like eminent domain ruling in Kelo which violated the Constitution.  It might be the law but it violates what the document says.  It is not contradictory to say the US gave him citizenship in violation of that document because we did.</p>
<p>Once again you are not smart enough.  I did not call for any concentration camps or imprisonment excpet for those who have broken the law.  The ILLEGALS have broken the law and yet you are too deft to see that.</p>
<p>I find it amazing that people who want Bush impeached because he supposedly broke the law and had an illegal war want to reward ILLEGALS for breaking the law (really breaking it).</p>
<p>You are certainly parroting your democratic talking points with the bumper sticker talk.  There are solutions that do not involve amnesty.  I will not support amnesty no matter how much and I will never, ever hire a person who received amnesty.  Is there any question about how I feel little fellow.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.onebigdog.net/deported-mother-has-it-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-21434</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BD, 

Ask Malkin.  You&#039;ve met her.  she&#039;ll tell you if her parents were citizens at the time she was born here.  You can probably even ask her in the comments of her blog.  I bet she&#039;ll ban you for doing it but it would be an interesting experiment.  It would also be interesting to know if any of her other relatives were able to immigrate as a result of her American citizenship.  Who knows?  Maybe there is an entire clan of ILLEGALS behind her?

I like your amnesty argument that &#039;no law was broken&#039; at the time they became citizens when the premise of your post was &quot;The United States gave Saul citizenship in violation of our Constitution because he was born here...&quot;

Anyway, I think you need to figure out the details before you go off calling for mass imprisonment in concentration camps &amp; mass deportations.  You might end up getting Malkin&#039;s entire family deported and she might end up in prison for harboring criminals.  Oh, right!  Except she&#039;s over 18, so she gets amnesty under your plan, unlike the other little faux American citizens who are under 18 years old and will be deported.

Once again, real life situations and right-wing bumper sticker worldviews clash and the right-wing bumper sticker worldview is exposed for being ridiculous and unworkable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BD, </p>
<p>Ask Malkin.  You&#8217;ve met her.  she&#8217;ll tell you if her parents were citizens at the time she was born here.  You can probably even ask her in the comments of her blog.  I bet she&#8217;ll ban you for doing it but it would be an interesting experiment.  It would also be interesting to know if any of her other relatives were able to immigrate as a result of her American citizenship.  Who knows?  Maybe there is an entire clan of ILLEGALS behind her?</p>
<p>I like your amnesty argument that &#8216;no law was broken&#8217; at the time they became citizens when the premise of your post was &#8220;The United States gave Saul citizenship in violation of our Constitution because he was born here&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyway, I think you need to figure out the details before you go off calling for mass imprisonment in concentration camps &amp; mass deportations.  You might end up getting Malkin&#8217;s entire family deported and she might end up in prison for harboring criminals.  Oh, right!  Except she&#8217;s over 18, so she gets amnesty under your plan, unlike the other little faux American citizens who are under 18 years old and will be deported.</p>
<p>Once again, real life situations and right-wing bumper sticker worldviews clash and the right-wing bumper sticker worldview is exposed for being ridiculous and unworkable.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 02:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are, as usual, wrong about the definition of amnesty.  If the law allowed something at a specific time then no law was broken.  Abortion is legal.  If they outlaw it should we arrest the people who performed them for murder?

Malkin was born to Filipino parents, does that mean they were not citizens?  How about kids of Japanese parents?  Their parents are Japanese but they might be citizens or here legally.

You really should try thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are, as usual, wrong about the definition of amnesty.  If the law allowed something at a specific time then no law was broken.  Abortion is legal.  If they outlaw it should we arrest the people who performed them for murder?</p>
<p>Malkin was born to Filipino parents, does that mean they were not citizens?  How about kids of Japanese parents?  Their parents are Japanese but they might be citizens or here legally.</p>
<p>You really should try thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 01:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the &#039;faux citizen kids&#039; are over 18, they should be allowed to stay = amnesty.  I didn&#039;t know you did &#039;nuance&#039;.  It must be your hoity-toity private education that gives you your nuanced view of the world.

But if Malkin, who Wikipedia informs us was born to Filipino parents in Philidelphis, is in fact a jackpot baby, her parents and anyone else who came to the US as a result of her instant citizenship would need to be deported under your plan, right?  and for some reason, since she is OVER 18 years old, she will not be busted for harboring illegals (that makes no sense, by the way - why bust a minor but not an adult?).  

Since you know her thru your pro-war, anti-immigrant activities, you should ask her. I think it&#039;s worth clearing up.  After all, by your definition, that would make her &#039;faux citizen kid&#039;, not a real American.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the &#8216;faux citizen kids&#8217; are over 18, they should be allowed to stay = amnesty.  I didn&#8217;t know you did &#8216;nuance&#8217;.  It must be your hoity-toity private education that gives you your nuanced view of the world.</p>
<p>But if Malkin, who Wikipedia informs us was born to Filipino parents in Philidelphis, is in fact a jackpot baby, her parents and anyone else who came to the US as a result of her instant citizenship would need to be deported under your plan, right?  and for some reason, since she is OVER 18 years old, she will not be busted for harboring illegals (that makes no sense, by the way &#8211; why bust a minor but not an adult?).  </p>
<p>Since you know her thru your pro-war, anti-immigrant activities, you should ask her. I think it&#8217;s worth clearing up.  After all, by your definition, that would make her &#8216;faux citizen kid&#8217;, not a real American.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 04:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have established no such thing and I am not in favor of amnesty.  If it was the law at the time we need to follow it.  If Roe is overturned should we arrest all the women who had abortions?  

I am trying to have a practical solution without creating a nightmare.  If I had my choice we would take the citizenship away and send them home but I do not have that choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have established no such thing and I am not in favor of amnesty.  If it was the law at the time we need to follow it.  If Roe is overturned should we arrest all the women who had abortions?  </p>
<p>I am trying to have a practical solution without creating a nightmare.  If I had my choice we would take the citizenship away and send them home but I do not have that choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 02:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BD,

You said:

&quot;I would think that those who received citizenship based on an interpretation of the law should have that maintained with a few caveats...&quot;

In other words, you believe in AMNESTY even though you say the law has been incorrectly applied.  I&#039;m glad we established your support for AMNESTY.

I&#039;ll check on Malkin.  Was she one of the 10 people at your gathering?  -)  I have a post up about the GOE gathering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BD,</p>
<p>You said:</p>
<p>&#8220;I would think that those who received citizenship based on an interpretation of the law should have that maintained with a few caveats&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words, you believe in AMNESTY even though you say the law has been incorrectly applied.  I&#8217;m glad we established your support for AMNESTY.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll check on Malkin.  Was she one of the 10 people at your gathering?  -)  I have a post up about the GOE gathering.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 01:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well BJ,
First I would think that those who received citizenship based on an interpretation of the law should have that maintained with a few caveats.  The child is not permitted to sponsor anyone for citizenship.  If they are younger than 18 and their parents are discovered as ILLEGALS and deported the citizenship of the child is removed for harboring criminals.  This might sound cruel but it prevents the fiasco like we have now with parents going and crying about children left behind.

What we need to do is stop the process immediately so that people lose the incentive to sneak in and pop out kids.  This means all hospitals would be required to verify citizenship status prior to issuing a birth certificate.

I have written about this before and believe that a plan will work but not until the amendment is correctly enforced.

As for Michelle Malkin.  I do not know her status and neither do you as you asserted when you said you &lt;em&gt;heard&lt;/em&gt; it.  Do you have any of the vital proof you ask for?  Also, if it is true, under my plan she is over 18 and it would not matter.  Her husband is a citizen and could sponsor her if need be.  However this is all speculation since we do not know.

I spoke with her today but forgot to ask her about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well BJ,<br />
First I would think that those who received citizenship based on an interpretation of the law should have that maintained with a few caveats.  The child is not permitted to sponsor anyone for citizenship.  If they are younger than 18 and their parents are discovered as ILLEGALS and deported the citizenship of the child is removed for harboring criminals.  This might sound cruel but it prevents the fiasco like we have now with parents going and crying about children left behind.</p>
<p>What we need to do is stop the process immediately so that people lose the incentive to sneak in and pop out kids.  This means all hospitals would be required to verify citizenship status prior to issuing a birth certificate.</p>
<p>I have written about this before and believe that a plan will work but not until the amendment is correctly enforced.</p>
<p>As for Michelle Malkin.  I do not know her status and neither do you as you asserted when you said you <em>heard</em> it.  Do you have any of the vital proof you ask for?  Also, if it is true, under my plan she is over 18 and it would not matter.  Her husband is a citizen and could sponsor her if need be.  However this is all speculation since we do not know.</p>
<p>I spoke with her today but forgot to ask her about it.</p>
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