Comments on: Democrats Might Lose Obama’s Old Senate Seat http://www.onebigdog.net/democrats-might-lose-obamas-old-senate-seat/ "Let that be a lesson to you, boys and girls. Don't ever argue with the Big Dog because the Big Dog is always right" Tue, 14 Feb 2012 05:27:03 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Randy http://www.onebigdog.net/democrats-might-lose-obamas-old-senate-seat/comment-page-1/#comment-143692 Randy Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:25:32 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8339#comment-143692 It's a state I have called home for well over a decade now. Not many people here will lose any sleep if Kirk wins. Heck, I may even vote for him when it's all said and done with. His rhetoric sucks, but I don't disagree too much with his policies. It's also worth noting that his congressional district could just as easily end up in the hands of a Democrat. I like Giannoulias though. We'll see how it all plays out. It’s a state I have called home for well over a decade now. Not many people here will lose any sleep if Kirk wins. Heck, I may even vote for him when it’s all said and done with. His rhetoric sucks, but I don’t disagree too much with his policies. It’s also worth noting that his congressional district could just as easily end up in the hands of a Democrat. I like Giannoulias though. We’ll see how it all plays out.

]]> By: Adam http://www.onebigdog.net/democrats-might-lose-obamas-old-senate-seat/comment-page-1/#comment-143682 Adam Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:25:01 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8339#comment-143682 Senate, House? Sorry Blake, I didn't know we'd resorted to this level of nitpicking. Next you'll be calling out my poor use of commas and any spelling mistakes I've made. Oh, you showed me! Senate, House? Sorry Blake, I didn’t know we’d resorted to this level of nitpicking. Next you’ll be calling out my poor use of commas and any spelling mistakes I’ve made. Oh, you showed me!

]]> By: Blake http://www.onebigdog.net/democrats-might-lose-obamas-old-senate-seat/comment-page-1/#comment-143673 Blake Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:19:19 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8339#comment-143673 Good catch, BD- for a political watcher, Adam really should know where Owens has gone- if, however, he was knocked out of the House by Hoffman, I think his votes would automatically go in the "not present" column- you know, like all of Barry's Senate votes, and State votes, and every other position he has taken. The man is an actual waffle- he should be on a plate at IHOP. Good catch, BD- for a political watcher, Adam really should know where Owens has gone- if, however, he was knocked out of the House by Hoffman, I think his votes would automatically go in the “not present” column- you know, like all of Barry’s Senate votes, and State votes, and every other position he has taken.
The man is an actual waffle- he should be on a plate at IHOP.

]]> By: Big Dog http://www.onebigdog.net/democrats-might-lose-obamas-old-senate-seat/comment-page-1/#comment-143644 Big Dog Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:35:59 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8339#comment-143644 I don't necessarily think he would be good for the party but considering the state he is from he might be a neo con compared to a lot of the voters. The only irony I see is that they worked hard to save the seat for a Democrat and now they might lose it. They went through a lot of mess and might not hang on. I don’t necessarily think he would be good for the party but considering the state he is from he might be a neo con compared to a lot of the voters. The only irony I see is that they worked hard to save the seat for a Democrat and now they might lose it.

They went through a lot of mess and might not hang on.

]]> By: Randy http://www.onebigdog.net/democrats-might-lose-obamas-old-senate-seat/comment-page-1/#comment-143642 Randy Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:32:09 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8339#comment-143642 Despite Giannoulias being cleared of any illegal or immoral involvement in any of the issues mentioned in that blog post, I am sure it will all be rehashed in the campaign. Regardless, Giannoulias has beaten a popular Republican in a statewide election before, Kirk hasn't. This is a big problem for Kirk. He has won by fairly narrow, and downright narrow margins in the 10th Congressional district. He does have plenty of campaign money and donors, but the money is coming from very wealthy moderate Republicans and moderate Democrats. His district includes Highland Park and Lake Forest, as well as the headquarters for several fortune 500 companies. The tightrope Kirk is walking is one where he is trying to appeal to folks downstate who may sit much further to the right and not lose the support of the Republican moderates (the ones that are pro choice and support cap and trade, as Kirk does) that provide the monetary support for his campaign. The "downstate conservatives" if you will, simply don't have the resources and money that the moderates of Kirk's congressional district have. Either some conservatives are going to have to swallow their pride and vote for a pro choice, pro cap and trade candidate, or Kirk is going to have to hope folks don't mind his flip flopping and taking a far right stance on issues he has previously taken a moderate or liberal stance. Despite Giannoulias being cleared of any illegal or immoral involvement in any of the issues mentioned in that blog post, I am sure it will all be rehashed in the campaign. Regardless, Giannoulias has beaten a popular Republican in a statewide election before, Kirk hasn’t. This is a big problem for Kirk. He has won by fairly narrow, and downright narrow margins in the 10th Congressional district. He does have plenty of campaign money and donors, but the money is coming from very wealthy moderate Republicans and moderate Democrats. His district includes Highland Park and Lake Forest, as well as the headquarters for several fortune 500 companies. The tightrope Kirk is walking is one where he is trying to appeal to folks downstate who may sit much further to the right and not lose the support of the Republican moderates (the ones that are pro choice and support cap and trade, as Kirk does) that provide the monetary support for his campaign. The “downstate conservatives” if you will, simply don’t have the resources and money that the moderates of Kirk’s congressional district have. Either some conservatives are going to have to swallow their pride and vote for a pro choice, pro cap and trade candidate, or Kirk is going to have to hope folks don’t mind his flip flopping and taking a far right stance on issues he has previously taken a moderate or liberal stance.

]]> By: Mike Radigan http://www.onebigdog.net/democrats-might-lose-obamas-old-senate-seat/comment-page-1/#comment-143639 Mike Radigan Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:23:20 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8339#comment-143639 Giannoulias may be popular, but there are many questions regarding him and ties to the mafia. Just google his name and mafia. Here's one such hit. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2219378/posts Giannoulias may be popular, but there are many questions regarding him and ties to the mafia. Just google his name and mafia. Here’s one such hit.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2219378/posts

]]> By: Big Dog http://www.onebigdog.net/democrats-might-lose-obamas-old-senate-seat/comment-page-1/#comment-143632 Big Dog Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:01:16 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8339#comment-143632 Especially since he was sworn into the House... Especially since he was sworn into the House…

]]> By: Adam http://www.onebigdog.net/democrats-might-lose-obamas-old-senate-seat/comment-page-1/#comment-143624 Adam Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:43:31 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8339#comment-143624 If things continue to head in the optimistic direction it will be very hard for the GOP to argue for the kind of change they are looking for. Yet, if the Democrats are perceived to have failed to create jobs by Nov 2010 then it could get tough. Folks don't care about deficits or fears of socialism and specters of raised taxes as the GOP is campaigning on right now. Folks just want to work and support their families. But who knows? I've heard NY-23 has become too close to call with more official counting. It would be a somewhat hilarious yet devastating blow to Dems for the state to certify Hoffman after Owens has already been sworn into the Senate and cast votes. If things continue to head in the optimistic direction it will be very hard for the GOP to argue for the kind of change they are looking for. Yet, if the Democrats are perceived to have failed to create jobs by Nov 2010 then it could get tough. Folks don’t care about deficits or fears of socialism and specters of raised taxes as the GOP is campaigning on right now. Folks just want to work and support their families.

But who knows? I’ve heard NY-23 has become too close to call with more official counting. It would be a somewhat hilarious yet devastating blow to Dems for the state to certify Hoffman after Owens has already been sworn into the Senate and cast votes.

]]> By: Randy http://www.onebigdog.net/democrats-might-lose-obamas-old-senate-seat/comment-page-1/#comment-143622 Randy Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:36:58 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8339#comment-143622 Yep, plenty can happen in a years time. Yep, plenty can happen in a years time.

]]> By: Adam http://www.onebigdog.net/democrats-might-lose-obamas-old-senate-seat/comment-page-1/#comment-143601 Adam Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:42:09 +0000 http://www.onebigdog.net/?p=8339#comment-143601 I don't think anybody will pretend the Democrats will keep every seat and gain even more but there are going to be seats switching hands all over the place. I think the GOP should reserve it's optimism until it's grounded more in reality. I don’t think anybody will pretend the Democrats will keep every seat and gain even more but there are going to be seats switching hands all over the place. I think the GOP should reserve it’s optimism until it’s grounded more in reality.

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