At this point I doubt you even remember what you were arguing about. But do remember it all started based upon a misquote from you, attributed to me.

D.

Both New Zealand and Australia are isolated with lots of open water between them.

I’ve always said the trend was up. Show me where I said otherwise. If the result is a net loss of jobs it is still bad. The trend has to go up eventually as you run out of jobs to lose. 10% plus unemployment is bad. And you stated it is OK to ignore the x-axis. Show me anywhere that confirms your wacky theory. Anywhere other than your own musings.

You answered your math background in the abstract never saying which courses you took. So which courses did you take? You’re quick to brag about your celebrities. And as far as you moving to Arkansas from Canada for the weather that makes no sense. There are instruments to tune throughout the U.S. Why Arkansas? Hot and humid in the summer and cold as heck in the winter. Just great weather, not. Did you make a wrong turn in L.A.?

Lying, Ssmething meant to deceive or give a wrong impression. You do this all the time. See the 1st paragraph in this reply. Protect the liberal line no matter what. I don’t know where you get all the time to make so many and such long posts here and elsewhere. That said, other than Adam you haven’t changed anyone’s mind. So post another long reply to this, be my guest.

I’m done with this topic as I’m sure everyone has already chosen sides and I have better things to do. I await your nasty last reply. Moving on.

DAR
That’s what I was asking for, since we were talking about Obama. Military leadership is different.

Surely there’s a lot of threats and bribing going on in the military too?

D.

DAR
No, liberals like the peace, it’s conservative who glorify war. Bizarre but true. Western Europe, peaceful, liberal. That’s the way of the future.

Bigd: “They appease the bad guys and get shat upon. 9/11,>>

DAR
9/11 was Bush’s incompetence.

Bigd: “Iran hostages, liberal appeasement.”>>

DAR
53 hostages, Islamic nutbar students. They all came home safe.

How many came home from the bombing of the marine barracks in Beirut under Reagan? 241 dead. Then Reagan pledged to stay, and then left a year later. Was Reagan a liberal appeaser? My cherry pick is better than yours.

Bigd: WWII Liberal appeasement”>>

DAR
How on earth do you get that? Hitler was a raving conservative fascist.

Bigd: “and when Iran nukes somebody…>>

DAR
N. Korea got nukes, under your Bush. Liberal appeaser? And then he attacks the wrong country.

It’s you conservatives who get bad results.

Bigd: If you are strong and project strength then people will leave you alone.”>>

DAR
How’d that work in Beirut? How’d it work in Iraq? Afghanistan? Vietnam?

That’s the old way. The new way is pillow fights.

Bigd: Peace through superior firepower.”>>

DAR
Incidentally, nukes are now stupid and useless for war. You can’t use them. No one can except lunatics. They are dinosaurs, a waste of money for a civilized country (ours cost $20-$30 billion a year to maintain). The world is far to interconnected now. And we’ve wasted trillions on this foolishness. Dumb.

D.

He died in 1981 and he led in WWII.

I doubt you could find a politician to fit that bill but like I said, I am not there when they work.

I could pick plenty of war heroes. I just happen to like Bradley a lot. I could have picked Norman Schwarzkopf.

You have never heard of Bradley, how sad.

There are patriots and there are politicians.

WWII Liberal appeasement and when Iran nukes somebody it will be because of liberal appeasement.

If you are strong and project strength then people will leave you alone.

Peace through superior firepower.

DAR
Never heard of him. Oh, I see he was born in 1893.

Had to go back a ways eh?

No politician has a right to have a president campaign for him. It’s a privilege, one that can and should be taken away if you pee on his, and his parties, centerpiece legislation. Obama is hardly a threatening fellow. Oh well, as long as he gets the job done. And he did.

Bigd: “Obama is a terrible leader.”>>

DAR
Really? I think he’s great. I mean really really good. Much better than even expected.

Who are you guys going to run against him? Somebody to the right of Lindsey Graham of course, after all he’s not even a real republican.

D.

DAR
Speaking of that, look who shows up!

D.
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If liberals ruled the world, this is what wars would look like.

Maybe someday.

DAR
What does internal crime have to do with your border theory? Nothing. It does have something to do with peacefulness, so it’s in the study.

Mike: “Outside of friendly Australia there is no other country even remotely close.”>>

DAR
Yes, I mentioned Australia, another problem for your theory (one of many). It’s 19th. Are you ready to chuck this claim yet?

“New Zealand is number one because it has no neighbors, period.” -Mike

Why isn’t Australia #1 Mike?

Bigd: “why do you ignore the crime indicators when they are 5 of the metrics used?”>>

DAR
Because they have nothing to do with your ‘number of border countries’ theory.

Blake said the US was the most peaceful country on earth. It doesn’t matter which metric you use, that’s just false. Your border theory doesn’t hold up but for different reasons.

Mike: “How do you draw each bar if you do not start at the x-axis?”>>

DAR
As I explained to you, repeatedly. Put the bar where you want. Put it a million points up, put it a million points down. Just keep the ratio between the x-axis and each month, the same. The trend stays the same. My claim was about the trend. You are using a different reference point and thus get a different answer for “good.”

Mike: “And how much math have you had?”>>

DAR
And why did I leave Canada?

Mike: “You never did answer.”>>

DAR
Yes I did. And I even told you were the answer was. You don’t read, or you don’t comprehend or you’re lazy or stupid. Not my problem.

Mike: “You said I lied when I said isolation was a big factor.”>>

DAR
No I didn’t. Cite this. You can’t. That’s why you don’t. Unlike you, I very rarely make the charge of “lying.” Unlike you, I don’t make claims I can’t back up. The word “lied” only occurs once on this page, and your usage here is the very first and only occurrence (not counting this post).

I also respond to points directly and don’t refer to unreferenced “you said” BS.

Mike: “And you omitted the very word and examples I used.”>>

DAR
Bullsh-t. Your claim means nothing until you show this. And then, because obviously not all text can be quoted, you need to show something left out was relevant and changed something. That would have been the FIRST thing to do if you weren’t making this up completely for the purpose of distraction. But you haven’t done any of this. Nothing. And you won’t, because you can’t.

D.
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Oops, forgot Bobby McFerrin. Don’t worry, be happy.

Celebrity tuner said, “Unbelievable. Are you still so dense can’t comprehend that the *location* of the x-axis is completely irrelevant to the TREND? As was explained to you repeatedly, my “up is good, down is bad” comment referred to the month by month TREND. When you changed the reference point, you equivocated.” I said from the start the trend was up. I agreed with that. And you cannot graph the trend without the starting x-axis to graph each bar. How do you draw each bar if you do not start at the x-axis? And how much math have you had? You never did answer. I’m guessing maybe beginning algebra, nothing more. So what math book do you find where you can ignore the x-axis?
The point is a net job loss is bad and it’s not good until there is a net job gain. And this doesn’t even touch the fact that eventually the trend must get better as there are no more jobs to lose.

You said I lied when I said isolation was a big factor. And you omitted the very word and examples I used.

Tune on oh great celebrity instrument tuner.