It’s an idea I am unable to take seriously (now or before her latest belly flop).

But what do voters think? Did she make them more or less likely to support the McCain ticket?

Answer here.

D.

BLAKE
Forget it, SAV: I would shot [sic] you first. Just on priciples [sic].

SAV
Checkmate.

SAV
You don’t care so much that you’ll try to accuse me of being a liar. Nobody’s buying it, Blake.

As my little tract at that link shows:

1. The Bible condones slavery.

2. The Bible supports polygamy.

3. The Bible has condoned and even required human sacrifice.

4. The Bible has supported mass genocide.

5. The Bible teaches that women have an inferior status to men.

6. The Bible says a woman must marry her rapist.

These are all things we now understand to be immoral. We changed, improved, but that darn book, it just stays the same!

INON: “when there is no God, there are no morals and no ethics…”>>

DAR
Actually you have that quite backwards. Of all of the moral systems being discussed and taught in universities today, this one you speak of “Divine Command” has very little if any interest or discussion. It’s dead and has been for a long time. It is useless for a couple of obvious reasons:

1.) No one can show that a being has given any specific command. That is, even when you think you have gotten a “divine message” from the other side, you can never show that it isn’t the bad guy tricking you (never mind that you are probably hallucinating).

2) No one can show they are interpreting these divine commands correctly. See the 30,000 divisions of Christianity. And they even have a book to follow!

3) And no one can show why something would/should be moral just because
God said so. See the Euthyphro Dilemma. It’s only been around 2,400 years.

Christians like to pretend and may even believe that they have “absolute objective morals.” Yet I have never found a Christian who could give me a single example of one. Not one.

Anyone wanna try?

D.
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“In fact, the foundations of ethical behavior not only predate the world’s major religions; they also predate the rise of Homo sapiens. Frans de Waal, a primatologist at Emory University, has written extensively about the existence of seemingly moral behavior in nonhuman species. “I’ve argued that many of what philosophers call moral sentiments can be seen in other species,” he said. “In chimpanzees and other animals, you see examples of sympathy, empathy, reciprocity, a willingness to follow social rules. Dogs are a good example of a species that have and obey social rules; that’s why we like them so much, even though they’re large carnivores.”

“Over the centuries, we’ve moved on from Scripture to acc**ulate precepts of ethical, legal and moral philosophy,” Dawkins says. “We’ve evolved a liberal consensus of what we regard as underpinnings of decent society, such as the idea that we don’t approve of slavery or discrimination on the grounds of race or sex, that we respect free speech and the rights of the individual. All of these things that have become second nature to our morals today owe very little to religion, and mostly have been won in opposition to the teeth of religion.” –Richard Dawkins

DAR
You say that likes it’s a bad thing. I thought you had a dictionary.

D.
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liberal: Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded” –American Heritage

See:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/liberal