This is what happened with the first stimulus. Republicans voted against it but so did enough Democrats that it would have passed if they voted for it. Pelosi told the ones in vulnerable districts to vote against it and then railed when Republicans did not support it. Then, in the campaign they blamed all the problems on Republicans giving to rich Wall Street people.

Make them do it and hold them accountable. We cannot make it easy for him to get what he wants and we cannot make it easy for them to blame it on Republicans.

Obama was praised as the savior but I doubt that will happen. In a year he will have low numbers, like Congress.

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Take New Orleans. This was a media driven problem to cover for DEMOCRATS who could not do their jobs. Adam and his ilk laid the blame on Bush when Bush could not go fix it himself and it would be unconstitutional for him to intervene in a state’s business. Adam and his lib buddies do not understand the Constitution which is why they ignore it. Katrina was a failure at the state and local level but you never hear the libs say that. They lay it on the feds because they all expect the feds to do for them because they are unable to do for themselves. People in NO refused to leave and the mayor refused to use 500 buses to force them out and then when it takes two weeks to rescue people from roof tops, Bush is labeled as the one who could not do his job. A governor fails to ask for federal help even when the feds were prodding her and it is Bush’s fault. FEMA had its issues but I have worked with FEMA and am part of the National Incident Command System. I know people who were there and running it from the federal level. Once they overcame the failure of state DEMOCRATS, they were able to get things done. Look at how it went during Ike with a competent Republican governor.

No, Bush got the blame because liberals did not want the world to know Democrats can’t lead and they knew it could be used for political gain. They did not want people to see what an abject failure their programs had been. Nearly all the population was Democrat and 67% blacks in poverty on government programs. They were not able to take care of themselves because they were too accustomed to government doing for them.

We have had several bad disasters in predominantly white communities, fairly conservative communities and the people took care of themselves. FEMA did not rush in and Kanye West was not saying Bush hates white people.

Different mentality and Adam subscribes to the first. It is because he thinks government is there to take care of people’s every need.

He says the economy was never that strong but EVERY economic indicator was as good as Clinton’s or better and Adam and his ilk think Clinton had a wonderful economy. That is the problem. The numbers can be the same and Bush was bad and Clinton was good because the MSM tells them that.

And Adam shows my point about the Constitution. He says that Bush has waged two wars in two countries and that is not true. The UNITED STATES has waged two wars in two countries and the Congress authorized it including nearly every Democrat. Then, when things got tough the Dems cried that they were tricked or did not know. That is a lie, once again for political purposes. These are not Bush’s wars, they are our country’s. If the Dems did not want to go they could have voted no. Also, a huge majority of the country wanted us to go so Adam and his ilk should be happy because we went with the polls.

That horse did not die in the 90s when the news reports that Obama is using polls and focus groups to push his stimulus package (that should not be pushed).

One last thing, to get it in the open and keep the jerks on the left from once again rewriting history. Clinton IS responsible for 9/11 because he did not act on terror as acts of war but as crimes. Osama bin Laden has specifically said that Clinton’s response to the Blackhawk Down incident led him to attack America. Therefore, the guy the left believes more than our own president specifically said he attacked us because of Clinton’s inaction which makes Clinton responsible.

There has been no terrorist who said that he was acting because of Bush’s inaction. If they attack us on Obama’s watch it will not be Bush’s fault.

It will be the test of Obama that Biden promised us would come. No one, not even Adam, could make the case that Bush failed to act.

However, I agree with Adam that I hope we never have to argue that issue for real.

At what point do you stop considering it a virtue to just ignore the will of the people and drive on into lunacy and party suicide?

Bush came in with a recession and he’s leaving with one. In the middle of that the economy was never that strong. He ate cake and played guitar while people drowned in New Orleans. He waged two wars in two countries which we are still fighting even though both have been declared victories several different times. He still hasn’t caught the man responsible for 9/11.

That’s what you fail to note in your post above. Bush is unpopular not because he refused to govern by polls but because those decisions have not left us any better off and in many ways are directly responsible for the misery our country is in right now.

So if we are attacked by terrorists under Obama, is that Bush’s fault? Surely it is if Clinton caused 9/11, right? Let’s hope we don’t have to have that argument for real though…

By the way, how did that work out?

another example…Adolf Hitler