As long as smoking is a legal practice then no one has the right to tell you that you cannot do it. Almost all abortions end in death. There are plenty of children born to smokers who are fine. There is no comparison.

Though for the record I don’t think it is smart to smoke especially if one is pregnant.

DAR
Oh spare me. Some anonymous crap posted in a comment thread by no one knows who? Really?

Let’s look at the second one. It’s called “Stop the ACLU” but actually it’s referring to a comment on a far RIGHT site called: “Center for the Advancement of Capitalism.” That is, some of your right wing Ayn Rand nuts. Your kind of people. Had you read your link you would have known this but you went with the headline posted by some rightwing buffoon but didn’t read the article did you? This isn’t even worth roasting.

Let me make it real easy for you. It is your side that wants the government to limit a woman’s choice. It’s called pro-choice for a reason. A person who is pro-choice is very much for a person’s right to choose to deliver, or not. Someone who would “excoriate Palin” for choosing to have her child is, by definition, not pro-choice. They’re instead some twisted variation of your group.
Palin was excoriated in the press, not because she chose to have her baby, but rather because she is an idiot.

Bigd: “I am pro life”>>

DAR
I think you’re just confused. You said:

“As far as Ms. Burton goes, she is free to take her own medical decisions.”

Abortion is a medical decision.

You said: “All patients have the right to refuse any and all treatment.”>>

DAR
What if it is a treatment to save a fetus? This is consistent with pro-choice.

“If Ms. Burton wanted to not be on bed rest… and wanted to continue smoking, no matter how distasteful or stupid that is, she is free to do just that.”

DAR
What if it causes abortion? Oh wait, it DOES.

D.
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Abortion Solution
“When my research showed that tobacco induces up to 141,000 spontaneous abortions (miscarriages) among American women each year (“Sin of Omission,” May/June), I thought the religious organizations concerned about the unborn would turn their wrath on the tobacco companies and the politicians who perfect them.
I mailed a summary of my research to more than 50 right-to-life organizations. I was bewildered that I did not receive a single reply. Nor, to my knowledge, did the leaders of these groups pass this information on to their members.
I now understand their silence. These groups feel that the fetus’ right to life is more important than the mother’s right to choose, but the unborn’s rights are not as important as the right of these groups to accept huge sums of money from tobacco companies in exchange for their silence. Perhaps the whole abortion debate could be settled with one large cash payment.”

–Dr. Joseph R. Difranza, University of Massachusetts Medical Center, Worchester, Mass. Mother Jones, 8/96, pg. 10.

Sorry, but the whack jobs with nasty signs are tea party founders so hurry up and find a new excuse for their racism. But then again the movement is nearly 100% whack job, so there’s your problem…

I proved what I said and now the question is will Darrel comply with his #2?

And not all of those quotes come from the fringe.

Funny though, you point to a few whackjobs with nasty signs at a tea party as proof that it reflects the entire movement but dismiss your folks as whakjobs.

Spin, spin, spin.

Or here

or here

Or here

I am pro life, Roe is a pro murder ruling.

Before anyone brings up Terry Schiavo (not about a pregnant woman but about a judge deciding her fate), that was a dispute between family members where a judge had to decide between what each side presented as the patient’s wishes.