9/11 Truthers Are Mentally Ill and Should Be Sedated

I have been relatively silent on the phenomenon of the 9/11 truth movement. I did take some shots at Rosie O’Donnell for her comments on the subject (and the fact that she changed part of her story on it) and I have commented about some of the things that have been said but I have not said much about the specific people who actually believe that the US government (read Bush and his evil Republicans) was responsible for the events on 9/11 and the collapse of the Twin Towers and WTC 7. My opinion was that these folks are entitled to believe what they want and sound as moronic as they want but now I think they are taking the part about being morons to a new level. They are ALL mentally ill.

I am not going to go over the details of their claims. These have been made enough by them in blog entries about everything and in fact, their responses to a news article inspired me to write this post. There is a post at the Blotter about a new terror video that promises a big surprise. From what I gather, the terrorists are going to try and attack out President. The comment section has item after item from Truthers who dispute the issue and claim that this is another inside job. Their posts implore us to believe them and to wise up and see the truth. They claim that if there is such an attack it is because our government set it up. They seem to ignore common sense (which is not that common) by asking how so many people could keep such a secret. If our government actually did this the New York Times would have found out and reported it along with all the other secrets they have reported. The Democrats hate George W Bush so much that, if proof existed that he did this, they would be bringing him up on charges and impeaching him. If this were true and could be proved it would guarantee a Democratic majority and a Democratic President for decades. But this message seems to be bouncing off their tin foil hats.

People are entitled to their conspiracy theories. There are people who believe Elvis is alive (he just went home son), that we never landed on the moon, we have aliens at Area 51, the CIA distributed drugs to blacks, and that AIDS was developed by white people to get rid of blacks by infecting a bunch of them in Africa. While these are all out in left field, there is not such a huge following that they inject this stuff into everyday conversation (and time has passed since these conspiracies were born). Conversely, the Truthers look for every opportunity to scream about the “9/11 inside job.” Rosie is not the only celebrity to spout this crap and there are others who follow candidates around asking them about this. I can only conclude that these people are seriously mentally ill.

The Truthers are absolutely, without a doubt, not in their right minds. These people stopped drinking the kool aid and now have an IV of the stuff going around the clock. Their tin foil hats are definitely wound way too tightly around their pin heads and the blood flow to their small brains has been cut off. These people should not be allowed out in public and they should have to be heavily sedated at all times. There should be a national round up to get these people off the streets and into institutions where they belong. They are a danger to themselves as they have lost all touch with reality. In essence, they are severely mentally ill. I do not know how to put it any other way because they obviously suffer from some mental disorder. It is the only way to explain the madness.

I am going to try some therapy by putting my conspiracy theory out there. A bunch of Muslims, who use terror to promote their religion, following orders from other Muslims who do the same thing, hijacked four airplanes and killed the crews with box cutters they smuggled aboard. Then, two of the planes, piloted by these peaceful men, flew into each of the towers. A third plane was piloted into the Pentagon and the last one was forced into the ground before it could hit its intended target. This is what happened, this is what the world saw on TV, and this is how things went down that terrible day. Any moron who can not see this should not be allowed to reproduce.

Truthers, start taking your medications, rip that kool aid IV out and remove those tin foil hats.

For God’s sake, get a grip on reality.

Big Dog



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28 Responses to “9/11 Truthers Are Mentally Ill and Should Be Sedated”

  1. Rev. Spaminator says:

    Just an FYI…

    Tin foil hats have been proven ineffective..

    http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/

    Sedation ain’t so bad, just turn on the TV and pass me the PBR! :)

    “I like you Stewart, you aren’t like the other folks, here, in the trailer park!”
    – Dead Milkmen

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  4. Sheila says:

    Sorry Big Dog. I can’t agree with you this time. I don’t believe in the conspiracy theories that Bush instigated the 9-11 attacks, but documentable evidence is surfacing all the time that we do not know everything about what happened.
    We had better start listening to the people who have lived their whole lives under threat of terrorism and stop believing our government has our best interests and safety at heart, or that they are even capable of protecting us in the event of a national catastrophe. Hurricane Katrina proved to me that the government on the federal level does not care…DOES NOT CARE…about the citizens. We are expendable. Juval Aviv – the Israeli Agent who the movie “Munich” was about,is trying to sound a warning for us. He was Golda Meir’s bodyguard and she appointed him to track down and bring to justice the Palestinian terrorists who took the Israeli athletes hostage and killed them during the Munich Olympic Games. His bio is below, his book is “Staying Safe”.
    He predicted the London subway bombing on the Bill O’Reilly show on Fox News stating publicly that it would happen within a week – O’Reilly laughed and mocked him saying that in a week he wanted him back on the show and unfortunately, within a week the terrorist attack occured).

    Juval Aviv gave intelligence (via what he had gathered in Israel and the Middle East) to the Bush Administration about 9/11 a month before it occured. His report specifically said they would use planes as bombs and target high profile buildings and monuments. The Administration ridiculed him and refused to respond (Congress has since hired him as a security consultant – but still the Administration does not listen to him). Within a month 9/11 occured.

    He didn’t agree with going into Iraq – said it didn’t make sense if we wanted terrorists responsible for 9/11 (and also he believes in Golda Meir’s approach which was to bring justice to the terrorists but do not take down civilians – killing civilians only creates more terrorists – but similar to Bush, Israel’s subsequent leaders were not as insightful as Golda Meir) – however, when we did decide to invade Iraq we should have learned from Israel’s past mistakes. He very articulately stated that Israel’s greatest mistake against their
    war on terror was to invade the West Bank and Gaza and stay there…
    He said they should have done the proven anti-terrorist strategy which was “Hit and Leave” instead of “Hit and Stay.” Now we are stuck in Iraq and it is worse than Vietnam – Iraq is the U.S.’s West Bank/ Gaza. He doesn’t think we will ever be able to truly leave because even when we are able to pull our troops back we will still have to go back regularly which will keep us quagmired. We should have hit hard
    and left immediately – or actually, we shouldn’t have gone in at all…

    Now for the scary stuff…. He predicts the next attack on the U.S. is coming within the next few months. Forget hijacking airplanes because he says terrorists will NEVER try and hijack a plane again as the people on the plane will not go down quietly.
    Aviv believes our airport security is a joke- we are being
    reactionary versus looking at strategies that are effective.
    1) our machines are outdated. They look for metal and the new explosives are made of plastic.
    2) He talked about how some idiot tried to light his shoe on fire – we now have to take off our shoes, a group of idiots tried to bring aboard liquid explosives – now we can’t bring liquids on board. He is waiting for some suicidal maniac to pour liquid explosive on their underwear and light up in a plane or in the terminal and then we will all have to travel naked!
    3) We only focus on security when people are heading to the gates, he says that if a terrorist attack targets airports in the future, they will target busy times and on the front end when people are checking in. It would be easy for someone to take two suitcases of explosives, walk up to a busy check-in line, ask a person next to them to watch their bags for a minute while they run to the restroom or get a drink and then detonate the bags BEFORE security even gets involved. Israel checks bags before people
    can enter the airport.

    Now, back to his predictions: He says the next attack will come in the next few months and will involve suicide bombers and non-suicide bombers in places that people congregate: Disneyland, Las Vegas, Big Cities (NY, SFO, Chicago, etc…) and there it will be shopping malls, subways in rush hour, train stations, casinos, etc.. as well as rural America (Wyoming, Montana, etc…). The attack will be simultaneous
    detonations around the country (they like big impact) 5-8 cities including rural areas. They won’t need to use suicide bombers because at largely populated places like the MGM Grand in Vegas – they can simply valet park!

    He says this is well known in intelligence circles but our government does not want to alarm Americans. However, he also said that Bush will attack Iran and Syria before he leaves office (we are being prepared for that! and I have to wonder if we are not hearing about this impending attack so America will support attacking Iran and Syria?). In addition, since we don’t have enough troops Bush will likely use small, strategic nuclear weapons regardless that the headlines the next day will read “US Nukes Islamic World” and the world will be a different place to such an extent that global warming
    will be irrevelent.

    These are not conspiracy theories or crazy rantings. This is the man (and we have all heard/read that the Bush Administration was warned about 9/11 prior to it happening) who did the warning. He travels regularly to the Middle East and he knows his stuff.
    On a good note – he says we don’t have to worry about being nuked –
    he says the terrorists who want to destroy America will not use sophisticated weapons – they like suicide as the frontline approach. He also says the next level of terrorists will not be coming from abroad, but will be homegrown – having attended our schools and universities – but will have traveled frequently back and forth to the Middle East. They will know and understand Americans but we
    won’t understand them – we still only have a handful of Arabic and Farsi speaking people in our intelligence networks and we need that to change he said…What can we do? From an intelligence perspective he says the U.S. needs to stop relying on satellites and technology for intelligence but follow Israel, Ireland and England’s example of human intelligence both from an infiltration perspective as well as trust citizens to help. We need to engage and educate ourselves as citizens but our government treats us like babies and thinks we can’t handle it and will panic.

    He did a test for Congress recently putting an empty briefcase in 5 major spots in 5 US cities and not one person called 911 or sought a policeman to check it out. In fact, in Chicago – someone tried to steal it! In Israel an unattended bag or package would be reported in seconds with a citizen shouting “Unattended Bag” and the area cleared slowly, calmly and immediately by the people themselves.
    Unfortunately, we haven’t hurt enough yet for us to be that
    concerned.

    He also discussed how many children were in preschool and
    kindergarten after 9/11 without parents to pick them up and the schools did not have a plan. Do you have a plan with your kids, schools and families if you cannot reach each other by phone? If you cannot return to your house? If you cannot get to your child’s school – do they know what to do? We should all have a plan.

    He said that our government’s plan after the next attack is to
    immediately cut-off EVERYONE’s ability to use their telephone, cell phone, blackberry because they don’t want terrorists to be able to talk to one another – do you have a plan if you cannot communicate directly with those that you love?

    It is scary, but we do not have to panic, we just need to be aware. Unfortunately, the Bush Administration has not been helpful and we cannot change things until 2008. However, remember that when you vote….

    Juval Aviv holds an M.A. in Business from Tel Aviv University.
    He is President and CEO of Interfor, Inc. Based in New York
    with offices around the world, founded in 1979, Interfor provides foreign and domestic intelligence services to the legal, corporate and financial communities and conducts investigations around the world. In addition, Mr. Aviv serves as a special consultant to the U.S.
    Congress and other policy makers on issues of terrorism, fraud and money laundering.

    A leading authority on terrorist networks, Mr. Aviv served as lead investigator for Pan Am Airways into the Pan Am 103-Lockerbie terrorist bombing. He was featured in the recent film, Munich, as the leader of the Israeli team that tracked down the terrorists who kidnapped the Israeli Olympic team. Interfor’s services encompass white-collar crime investigations, asset search and recovery,
    corporate due diligence, litigation support, fraud investigations, internal compliance investigations, security and vulnerability assessments. Since its inception, Interfors asset investigation services have recovered over $2 billion worldwide for its clients.

    Before founding Interfor, Mr. Aviv served as an officer in the Israel Defense Force (Major, retired) leading an elite Commando/Intelligence Unit, and was later selected by the Israeli Secret Service (Mossad) to participate in a number of intelligence and special operations in many countries in the late 1960s and 1970s. While working as a consultant
    with El Al, Mr. Aviv surveyed the existing security measures in place and updated El Al’s security
    program, making El Al the safest airline in business today.

    Most recently, Mr. Aviv wrote Staying Safe: The Complete Guide to Protecting Yourself, Your Family, and Your Business,(2004,Protecting
    He is also the author of several other published books on terrorism. He has been a guest on ABC Nightline, FOX News, CNN, BBC Newsnight, ZDF (German National Television) and RAI (Italian National Television) and has been featured in numerous articles in major magazines and newspapers worldwide

  5. Buck Rogers says:

    Big Dog,

    I used to make fun of 9/11 truthers, too…and then about six weeks ago, I became one.

    It took me about 20 minutes of googling and youtubing “WTC 7” to have some very serious questions. About six hours of Google and Youtube later, I felt like an idiot for not doing this research earlier.

    This stuff is coming out now; at its highest levels, our government is a very different entity from what people think.

  6. Brainster says:

    We make fun of 9-11 Deniers all the time. The bizarre fascination with WTC 7, where nobody died, and where the firemen all knew the building was coming down hours before it finally collapsed is a perfect example of the minutiae they present.

    Will link from Screw Loose Change

  7. NeoconNews says:

    That’s a new tactic for the truthers. “I didn’t believe but last week…” Doesn’t that ring like an infomercial. Screw Loose Change is an excellent resource. I’m only sorry that there’s such a long line of BS in the comments about the magic of the 9/11 conspiracy.

  8. yeah, it is some crazy conspiracy stuff. and the truthers are certainly off their rocker. unfortunately, you lump in the “the cia distributed drugs to black” along with all the other “crazy” stories.

    that theory was written by an award winning reporter for a major newspaper and was well documented. also well documented was the attack on him and his reporting by major newspapers like the NYT and WaPo.

    that case was a little different than most truthers – sitting in mom & dad’s basement with a copy of final cut churning out videos on his youtube site.

  9. Big Dog says:

    Sheila, the federal government is not supposed to be in cities like NO saving people. What you should be concerned about is that the Mayor and Governor did nothing to help those people. George Bush and the federal government did not have 500 buses and the feds did not have drivers on the ground. Nagin did and he neglected the people.

    There is a difference between being prepared for attacks and listening to people with predictions and advocating that our government blew up buildings. If they did that cat would be out of the bag. The left would love to pin something like that on Bush and throw him in jail. I am all for heeding warnings, I just don’t think that the truthers are the kind of people I want to put my trust in.

    If it turns out they are right I will apologize but I just don’t see that happening.

  10. Middle Aged Dad says:

    Jeez Big Dog,
    All you did was engage in name-calling. Is that supposed to ease the legitimate concerns of middle-aged fathers, such as myself, who can clearly see the insanity (war) that is being perpetuated in the name of 9/11?
    The 9/11 Truth movement has legimate questions, such as why the US military changed its story and timelines four time in trying to explain why there was no fighter-jet response. Or how WTC 7 could have possibly come down in the way it did, at the speed it did, without the help of explosives. There simply is no precedent for such a collapse.
    And what about all the testimony of William Rodriquez and others who experienced explosions in the lower levels BEFORE the planes hit?
    What about the molten steel visible at Ground Zero for weeks afterward?
    These are not the questions of crackpots, are they? Are these questions really so outlandish as your commentary suggests? We need another investigation to get to the bottom of what happen. I feel sorry for you if you are afraid of people asking questions.

  11. Middle Aged Dad says:

    Brainster said,
    “The bizarre fascination with WTC 7, where nobody died, and where the firemen all knew the building was coming down hours before it finally collapsed”
    First of all Brainster, WTC7 would have been the TALLEST building in 37 states. It is not insignificant or a piece of trivia.
    My question is, “How did the firemen know it was coming down?” What experience could they have possibly had in their firefighting career could they have had that would lead them to conclude that WTC 7, a steel and concrete structure, would collapse? That’s all I want to know – what is that they saw or knew (based on their experience) that made them so certain it would fall. Because, you know, no other steel frame skyscraper has ever collapsed from fire. So it seems strange that they “knew” something that had never before happened, was now going to happen.
    Face it. The average person takes one look at WTC 7 falling at free-fall speed into its own footprint and knows instinctively that something is wrong. It’s physics, man! All the supports would have to fail simultaneously, would they not? Isn’t that why demolition companies make the big bucks?

  12. Middle Aged Dad says:

    Big Dog,
    Do yourself a favor and kill your TV. You aren’t going to get any truth there.

  13. Are we crazy though? Bush and Kerry are both members of skull and bones.
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4285108670025275462

    They attend Bohemian grove where they perform occult rituals, They also use effigies to conduct “cremations of care” before a statue of Moloch.

    Plus an overwhelming number of presidents were either high degree freemasons or were related via blood ties to royal families: http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/uspresidentasmasons.htm

    And then you wonder about how our voting system is a fraud!:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=UlfAeH_3P1w

    Lets not forget that Prescott Bush, George W. Bush’s grandfather, financed Hitler’s rise to power, profiting from the deaths of prisoners. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/document_20070723.shtml
    Karl Rove’s grandfather, Karl Heinz Roverer helped Hitler build to a concentration camp. The father of California’s governor, Gustav Scwarzenegger was a high ranking S.S. officer. Oh and the new pope was Part of Hitler’s S.S. youth. Does anyone besides me see a disturbing pattern developing here?

    The 9-11 attacks occurred exactly 10 years to the day after President George Bush Senior gave a major address to Congress entitled, “Toward A New World Order”. That address was on September 11, 1991.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo
    American Airlines Flight 11 started the attacks of 9-11-2001 when it slammed into the north tower of the World Trade Center, christening the twin obelisks with the blood of its 92 (9 + 2 = 11) passengers. The towers, of course, symbolized a huge 11 over the skies of New York.
    The Pentagon was modeled after the satanic symbol of the pentagram. American Airlines Flight 77 unites with the Pentagon, in a fiery alchemical working on the 77th meridian (twin 7 ‘s). Twins of Gemini are associated with Mercury, God of Trade & Commerce, also called Hermes, God of Information, also known as Lucifer, the Bringer of Illumination (interestingly, Apollo is also the bringer of illumination). Appropriately, Lucifer is the God of Trade according to Ezekiel 28:16.
    The Pentagon was built on the 77th meridian and was also 77ft. tall. Flight 77 hit the Pentagon, whose first stone was laid through ritual (in a masonic ceremony) exactly 60 years before on September 11, 1941.

    The terrorist attacks in Madrid Spain happened on March 13. 2004: 911 days after 9/11
    The London Train bombings on July 7th 2005 ‘AKA 7/7 or 7/7/7 (2005 = 2+5 =7)

    “Paste the sheets from right to left and from top to bottom: then behold!” -Liber Al 3:71
    http://911prophecy.com/Chapters/WTC%20Origami/WTC%20Origami1.htm
    The pentagon is on the back of the folded 20$ bill:
    http://www.glennbeck.com/news/05172002.shtml
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=hQyye3X64YQ

    We must be crazy because it is statistically impossible for all this to coincide with one another on such a huge scale. WTC 7 shows every indication of being brought down by control demolition. I forgot I should have checked with my calendar, since 9/11 was the day when the laws of physics no longer applied. I suppose the U.S. could never conduct false flag operations against its people for political means. Or did Operation North Woods, The USS liberty, or the Gulf of Tonkin incident never exist. The Project for a New American Century got precisely what it wanted after it noted that only a “new Pearl Harbor” would enable the military and defense policy transformations the group desired to rapidly take place.
    Isn’t it weird how on the very same day the terrorists attacks happened the U.S. was carrying military exercises that were almost identical to the events of 9/11. The same thing happened during the London bombing. But I suppose that’s just another coincidence. If the U.S. government has nothing to hide why won’t it release the footage captured by more than 100 cameras of the plane flying into the pentagon. Why was the rubble at ground zero remove so quickly?! FEMA was barely able to obtain a few steel beams. Never mind the fact that the terrorists didn’t have nearly enough flying expertise to fly it into the pentagon in the first place. Its a good thing Bush has no connection to Hitler. Oh wait he does. I must be as crazy as all these people: http://www.patriotsquestion911.com

    Condemnation without investigation is the highest form of ignorance

    THIS IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICE BERG. The amount of evidence out there is Staggering!

  14. Big Dog says:

    I am not afraid for people to ask questions. They can ask and act as stupid as they want. I made that clear. I happen to think they are all a bunch of nuts and I too am entitled to that opinion.

    The only one question that needs to be answered is how did the government pull this off and then keep it secret (that might count as two questions). How did they rig the buildings, how did the hide everything and how did they cover it up so well it was never leaked to the NYT (you know, with our battle plans, wiretap programs and the other secrets we tried to keep)?

    No steel frame skyskraper has ever collapsed from fire. I guess this is because what? Fire does not melt steel. That was the truther claim for a few years until a bridge in California melted and collapsed from a tanker fire.

    Are you saying the fire department was in on it? Why then, would they let so many of their guys die?

    Middle Aged Dad, I watch little TV. I don’t need others to tell me what to think. Unlike the collective in the truther movement, I can think for myself. Like I said, if it turns out they are right I will apologize, but I am sure that isn’t going to happen.

  15. ConsDemo says:

    “By Middle Aged Dad on Aug 3, 2007 | Reply

    Jeez Big Dog,
    All you did was engage in name-calling.”

    The so-called truthers are accusing others of committing mass murder on no credibe evidence whatsoever (saying “it looks like a controlled demolition” isn’t evidence) and they are worried about insults? Give me a break.

  16. Middle Aged Dad says:

    “The so-called truthers are accusing others of committing mass murder on no credibe evidence whatsoever (saying “it looks like a controlled demolition” isn’t evidence) and they are worried about insults?”
    Your statement really highlights what the 9/11 Truth movement is all about. First of all, the collapse of WTC7 DOES look like controlled demolition and is indeed a very strong form of visual evidence. It is indisputable proof that the building fell into its own footprint at free-fall speed. Nothing more, nothing less. However, we have decades of architectural and engineering experience that tells us that only controlled demolition can bring about that result.
    We are still, six years later, waiting for the NIST report on WTC7. Maybe they will have a perfectly reasonable explanation. However, my instincts tell me that if they haven’t been able to come up with one in six years, there probably isn’t one.
    See, I didn’t accuse anyone of mass murder. I just pointed out that steel skyscrapers DO NOT fall at free-fall speed into their own footprint without the use of explosives. However, once one accepts that, one then has to start connecting some more dots, assuming one is not brain-dead.

  17. Recently, my husband and I attended his mother’s family’s reunion. Yes, we encountered a Truther among all those relatives. I tried to disabuse her of her stupidity, but I’m not sure that I was successful.

    Truthers would rather believe anything other than the truth about Islam. You’d think that they could see the conspiracy there. But, no.

    You’re right, BD. They are in need of some serious mental help.

  18. Vrginis says:

    Bigdog,
    We know from years of experience, that dems start the lies, and the dumbest of the population believe them. We still have to protect them, incase of attack, even tho they should get a dose of their own medicine.

  19. Big Dog says:

    The truthers started out by claiming that the twin towers were imploded. Even Rosie was spouting that prattle. Then she changed to only WTC 7 which seems to be where the truthers have settled.

    I am no architect but there are plenty of experts saying that this was not an implosion. I don’t know what caused it to fall in its own footprint but I imagine that demolition is not the only way this can happen. There are claims it never happened before and that might be so but that does not mean it can not happen. It is not very often jets full of fuel hit buildings and cause very hot fires (and yes truthers, fire melts steel).

    A shot like the one Lee Harvey Oswald made had never been made until that one. No one had ever landed on the moon until we did.

  20. Middle Aged Dad says:

    “A shot like the one Lee Harvey Oswald made had never been made until that one. No one had ever landed on the moon until we did.”
    Uh, Big Dog, have you even seen the Zapruder film? If you have, you will see the FRONT of Kennedys brain get blown off, and his head (what remains) is thrown violently backwards. The powers that be know that we believe whatever we are told to believe, even when our own eyes can see it is lies. Just watch the Zapruder film. Front of skull, blown off, onto back of car where Jackie O tries to retrieve it.
    I guess next you’re going to tell me Pat Tillman was killed by radical Muslim fanatics.

  21. mr. blonde says:

    Big Dog, you’re incredible stupid.

    your ignorance is only topped by your arrogance.

  22. ConsDemo says:

    “Your statement really highlights what the 9/11 Truth movement is all about. First of all, the collapse of WTC7 DOES look like controlled demolition and is indeed a very strong form of visual evidence.”

    Yes, if you are so full of hate for the United States and are so willing to slander it because it suits your world view, then of course, you will endorse anything that appears to bolster your claims. In the real world, people need EVIDENCE not baseless theories to prove their point. You simply believe this nonesense because you want to believe it.

  23. bleecherama7 says:

    People once said the world was flat too

  24. Big Dog says:

    Mr. Blonde it is INCREDIBLY. Now, which one of us is stupid?

    Middle Aged Dad, The film is inconclusive. While there are many theories and while it looks to me as if Kennedy is hit in the throat before he is hit in the head (a street sign blocks view for a bit) the fact is the part of his head that blew backwards could have done so depending on the angle of the blow.

    There are many theories but until Oswald made that shot (and if there was more than one shot, one was Oswald’s) no one else ever had. It has since been duplicated.

    How about you stick to one conspiracy at a time. Is it time to change that kool aid bag?

    Truthers are truly mental.

  25. Sporanox says:

    It’s so amazingly outrageously incredible that people with no qualifications whatsoever are prepared to put their money behind a half-baked amalgamation of “facts” mixed with outright lies – and then believe with 100% certainty that they know the t r u t h.

    The event was observed in real time. The “experts” that disagree with the terrorism story in their “unbiased,” “peer reviewed journals” are, in many cases, stepping out of their field of study. Thousands of experts certified in relevant areas agree that there was NO controlled demolition. I’m going with them.

  26. Soulhuntre says:

    Ah the Kennedy thing – kind of like training wheels for crazy conspiracy theories. It is also a perfect example of how these people ignore reality.

    Do me a favor, take a look at what actually happens when head shots hit with high powered rifles… you will find that they often move TOWARDS the shot.

    Or you know, ignore reality.

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  28. Serr8d says:

    WTC 7 was subjugated to forces no other skyscraper has had applied to it, ever. The energy given off by the Twin Towers when they collapsed rocked WTC7 beyond it’s capacity for standing. The reason it fell in it’s own footprint? That little force called Gravity.

    By chance, would you have believed a bridge (a steel and concrete structure) could collapse, without warning, seemingly by magic (or explosives) before last weekend?

    It was not jet fuel alone that melted, or weakened, the WTC steel. The impact energy has to be accounted for, then the concrete itself (that concrete wasn’t just your ‘stepping-stone’ variety, it had to have some elastomers added, to allow the buildings to sway in the wind, and during minor earthquakes, and that stuff has energy to release as it’s powdered) as it demolished was releasing a lot of energy that has to be accounted for. Remember, energy (heat) is cumulative; burning fuel plus breaking concrete (chemical) bonds (you ever break up a cinder block with a hammer? seems that stuff goes everywhere, doesn’t it?), gravity, and you have a very hot, additive pile. No wonder the steel was ‘hot’ for weeks!